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07-19-2019 02:05 PM |
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Originally Posted by Calum
(Post 3238532)
Is this Zach, formerly of the Delicious Tuning fame? As a customer that has had a good relationship with both CSG and DT, and would like the to see the continued success of both companies, I'd like to know what happened behind the scene. Was Zach head hunter from DT? Is he taking IP from DT?
It's always seemed CSG and DT have had a decent relationship, but the complete lack of mention of DT in the original post makes me wonder what's transpired to bring you guys to this point.
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Zach left DT a while back. This post is from Delicious in another subforum on here
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning
(Post 3188101)
As some of you may know already Zach Tucker is no longer with Delicious Tuning. He resigned last week from the company and is interested in taking a break and possibly pursuing other endeavors, but we will always welcome him back.
Now for all the people out there with tunes and wondering what might be happening moving forward. William Knose, owner and lead calibrator for nearly 20 years, having tuned Gymkhana 1 and 2, driven by Ken Block, and developer of the Flash & Go tune for forced induction applications on the 86/BRZ/FRS platforms, will be taking over all tuning again. He will be custom tuning each car individually with our new Sales Associate Nazar Kharyna assisting with phone calls and emails.
We will pick up right were things were left off and we have a copy of your current tune and all previous tunes in our DB as far back as I can remember. The database is currently nearing the 10,000 mark. So if we do not have a good idea of what we are doing by now, well what can I say.
Please be patient, make sure to check your spam folders for new emails from us and enjoy your new found power. :cheers:
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Then there is this post from Neal from The Racer's Line on Facebook (in response to the Unauthorized Distributor post that Delicious posted there)
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"Hi! If you haven't heard of The Racers Line, I’m not surprised; I'm a one man operation. I have little to no online presence and spend most my time at my shop, where I service/modify tons of the 86’s in the greater Bay Area of Northern California. I have over 500 local clients with 86’s and have been doing this for the last 4 years with a stellar reputation. I’ve boosted over 200 of these cars using almost every kit on the market and helped real world validate some of the most well-known products available for this platform but, I stay pretty quiet on the internet front. I’m humbled every damn day by the reviews and messages I get from my amazing customers and I love going to work every day.
Until today, I was one of Delicious Tuning's largest worldwide dealers, along with CSG. I had a special agreement with Zach Tucker at DT where we rapid-fire revised cars multiple times throughout a day, and allowing us to complete the tuning process in one day. Every single car that was “tuned” was done by Zach, using Bill’s/DT’s base maps. That’s how it worked, and never once in 3 years as a dealer did I speak to or hear from Bill.
I moved shop locations this past October and acquired a Dyno of my own (no more closing the shop down for street revisions). Unfortunately with Zach’s departure from Delicious earlier this year, I could no longer count on DT to be able to return a single revision let alone multiple revisions to me same day; Bill was just too busy. It’s not a knock against him; there literally just wasn’t enough time in the day. Bill’s got his own dyno tunes, e-tunes, and sales to take care of.
Bill is now claiming that Zach is tuning for me, using “stolen” ROMs. That couldn’t be farther from the truth, and any Ecutek Dealer would know this is impossible. Bill actually manipulated Ecutek (and I’m not even sure this is legal) to spy on my DT Registered Ecutek Dongle ID and IP address, to see if I was flashing cars. I was. The dongle is just the hardware key that allows you to use the Ecutek ProECU software. It doesn’t let you magically steal tunes. For reference, I purchased a second dongle through CSG that says “registered with CounterSpace Garage". That doesn’t mean I’m stealing their tunes now. It just means that they as an Ecutek Master Tuner, can sell the cable, license dongle and their own tunes, with their name tied to it.
How Bill concluded that we had to have been “stealing” tunes from him is beyond me. In an extremely paranoid sounding letter demanding that we stop our “illegal” activities that weren’t actually happening, Bill claimed that it was impossible for Zach to be tuning on his own, since it had taken Bill years to develop his maps, while Zach had only been gone for a few months. Well, the information he didn’t have, was that Zach had already spent hundreds of hours on my dyno and even more hours on the street developing his base maps. I have 3 shop 86’s with various setups that allowed Zach to build base maps. CSG also provided many cars for development.
Here’s the SINGLE craziest part about all this. Not once did Bill reach out to me after after Zach left. He sent legal letters through an attorney, while ignoring my calls and FB messages until today, when this stuff was posted. ALL of this could have been cleared up with a single phone call, and instead has turned into an internet shit show.
TLDR; I, nor Elite or CSG stole any ROM files, it's not even possible. Zach Tucker, former Sales Associate and tuner for DT, is now my in-house contracted tuner.
I have no animosity towards Bill/Delicious Tuning, as things were going swimmingly. This whole thing is weird as hell. I will now obviously not be able to offer the Delicious Tuning Flex Fuel kits, so for my customers, I do apologize. I will sort an alternative out ASAP, or you can order Flex Fuel kits direct from DT and we will still support that kit, but won’t be able to offer a free install"
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There's some more in FB comments, and DT hasn't given a whole lot of insight into their exact reasoning. So take all this for what it's worth and know that only the people involved know the full story. |
