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cjd 07-17-2019 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaverickMonk (Post 3238135)
Perhaps... 14.2.F.1 seems to state that if it was standard or optional part on a US Model of the vehicle its ok. A model being

"A group of cars of a given make which have virtually identical bodies and chassis but are readily distinguished from other models of the same make by virtue of a major difference in body appearance and/or chassis design. The names by which the manufacturer designates these groups have no bearing on this definition even though two (2) groups may be designated identically" as per section 12. So that should span years? I think a 2015 Series.Blue BRZ is the same model as a 2013 limited.

I'd hate to buy some sideskirts and a lip and get classed into SM. Not that I'm competitive in STX. I can barely drive the car! but I do want to follow the rules.

Unless you're running nationals, don't fret it. But you'd be fine anyway but even if it were on the edge it'd be a sad protest. Like I said, locally I'd be fine with an 86 or FRS running STI skirts. Even nationally, but I understand why the rule is what it is. I might argue that they're all the same manufacturer, and the fact some are badged Toyota, scion, or Subaru is irrelevant. They're very obviously the same car. That might be pushing it.

strat61caster 07-18-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 3238139)
Unless you're running nationals, don't fret it. But you'd be fine anyway but even if it were on the edge it'd be a sad protest. Like I said, locally I'd be fine with an 86 or FRS running STI skirts. Even nationally, but I understand why the rule is what it is. I might argue that they're all the same manufacturer, and the fact some are badged Toyota, scion, or Subaru is irrelevant. They're very obviously the same car. That might be pushing it.

They didn't let the BRZ install the TRD lowering springs in CS/DS that the FRS could install so unfortunately I'd treat the different manufacturer separate since section 12 precedes both section 13 and 14.

This is why people don't like scca rules.

cjd 07-18-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3238335)
They didn't let the BRZ install the TRD lowering springs in CS/DS that the FRS could install so unfortunately I'd treat the different manufacturer separate since section 12 precedes both section 13 and 14.

This is why people don't like scca rules.


Yeah. Street vs touring still. Not needing to do full update/backdate makes it fuzzier to me. Still stupid. But get it, could get really out of hand on different platforms.

atomicalex 07-19-2019 11:28 AM

I am totally amused by this.

<- comes from a world of side mount intercoolers, where losing a fenderliner is considered a gift from the boost gods

steverife 07-22-2019 11:02 AM

Put a co-driver in the car and he knocked one out at basically the first turn at speed in his first run (stupid SSC car!). Also had a new experience. The Scion badge fell off the front bumper.

CatDaddysBBQ 09-03-2019 01:21 PM

Happened to me last year. Fast left hander, some body lean to the right and probably hit a bump while leaned over a bit and yup - hot sticky tire grabbed it and ripped the liner out mid-corner.

Felt like I had rolled a sidewall and gotten a flat.


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