Honda considering an S2000 successor - report
 

According to a recent report, Honda is considering an S2000 successor to battle the Toyota 86 / Scion BRZ / Scion FR-S.
Automotive News says American product planners are lobbying for the model, but their Japanese counterparts don't think it's a priority. That's discouraging, but the company still has several new models in the pipeline.
Following harsh reviews, Honda will unveil an updated Civic this fall. The car's styling will likely carryover, but there should be a significantly improved interior.
Autumn will also usher in the 2013 Accord. Featuring an evolutionary design, the model will have two new Earth Dreams engines: a 2.4-liter four-cylinder with 181 hp (135 kW / 184 PS) and a 3.5-liter V6 with 310 hp (231 kW / 314 PS).
A year later, Honda will introduce a new Crosstour. It was recently previewed by a concept and will be heavily influenced by the Accord.
On a happier note, a new Pilot and Ridgeline are expected in 2014. They will be based on the Odyssey and feature less blocky styling.
Lastly in 2015, a redesigned Insight and a Fit-based crossover will debut.
Source: Automotive News

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Honda always had the right of looks, reliability, and great interiors.

Let's hope they keep their performance traits

Honda has lost it's path. The last drivers car was the S2K and now it's dead along with the RSX-S (Integra).

RIP Honda.

I fully intend to point out to Honda and HPD in < 3 weeks that I would still be driving a Honda if they made this - points to BRZ.

I read somewhere (maybe on this forum) that Honda was working on their own DI engine.

HRMMM....

K20+DI+RWD+2+2= Probably the best car ever made. Make it look like a better CRZ (wider, lower, a bit longer) and there you go.

I did all the work for you Honda, now DO IT!

I can't see them retooling a line to handle a single low volume RWD car...

I think it's more likely to see something more performance oriented out of the CRZ.

.. I'm just guessing.

The BRZ and FRS are indeed popular but really how many are they actually selling compared to Camrys?

The numbers are very limited, and if the dealers had as much availablility to FRS as they do to Camrys there'd be a lot sitting unsold.

The FR-S is the new S2000 to me....well, the sister of the S2K.

Honda did lose their way. When I was younger I looked at the 94 Prelude and S2000 as amazing cars............

Accords with 300hp V6 engines? What is this world coming to...

Yes, I would trade my car in for THAT!!! :w00t:

Alright Honda, get back in the game. I loved my 91 Prelude. My 03 Civic Si...it just wasn't the same feeling.

PLEEEEEASE HONDA!!!!!! DO IT!

Someone needs to slap them upside the head while they are at it too! WTF!! :mad0260:

Automotive News says American product planners are lobbying for the model, but their Japanese counterparts don't think it's a priority.

Some moron in a committee meeting will say "let's make it a hybrid".

Like Yamanouchi from Mazda was talking about options to keep the rotary engine alive. Quoted: A range-extender rotary unit powered by hydrogen. Prototypes using the technology are already in use, where the rotary is used to produce electric power and steam is the only emission. Then he went on to say, "we can't rule out the possibility [of a rotary-powered MX-5]."


Whatever anyway..... JUST BE RWD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, some manufacturers are dropping the 6's from their midsize...

IMHO, I think it's a smart move by Honda of Japan not to let this take priority. Honda has a lot more to worry about than producing something to compete with the 86/BRZ. The new Civic is downright horrible. I test drove one before I had my heart set of the FRS and found that the cheap look and feel of the interior mixed with super loud cabin is not what I wanted. Honda also called the concept of the new Accord as "evolutionary" but all I see is the same old accord with lights placed in strange places. Honda has indeed lost its way. :slap:

Honda has followed Nissan, Mitsubishi, and Mazda into the toilet in my opinion.

''Hey remember that CR-Z we built to show some auto enthusiasm"
Committee; "Yes very very nice product"
"Yeah lets totally make the a new S2000 with a hybrid drive train"
New guy: "That car sucked sales were terrible, it was heavier than mac truck, the fuel econ was not amazing, and its slower than a metro on one cylinder"
Commitee: "Not true! people loved it new S2000 hybrid everyone get to work"

I've not even looked at anything from Honda for awhile now, they don't do anything sporty anymore. Its a shame too, in the 90s they were pretty awesome.

I'm selling my RSX Type-S so I can buy the FR-S.. goodbye Honda, hello Toyobaru! :cool:

"Ya! And some Robots! :thumbup:"

Mazda is trying though, they are finally improving their engines, and they deserve some credit for selling the RX8 for so long and keeping the MX5 alive (despite giving it a total shit drivetrain)

Wait, the CR-Z is heavy? I think the CR-Z is most of the way there, it needs 1000 more revs (probably has the lowest rev limit out of any "sport" car that's not pushrods), possibly a supercharger, and RWD. If they make anything rear wheel drive, and give the engine half a thought, that's something to be grateful for. For the MR-S, Toyota bothered to give the 1ZZ some lightened rods so it revs a teensy bit more. Honda didn't even bother with that, the LEA is weaker than some L15 variants. They deserve some credit for giving it a 6 speed manual transmission though.

If you want a cool honda these days this is what you have to do:

1) find mint NSX then call it a day, or
2) ek hatch, or crx stripped out (everything), + K20
3) ???
4) Profit

That's the problem. Whenever any auto manufacturer abandons their performance product they slip into the downward spiral of mediocrity. It happened to the Big 3 in the mid-to-late 70s and 80s. That's when the Japanese really took over. Now they've fallen into the same rut the Big 3 did, only without the oppressing economic incentives that drove their American counterparts there. That's the worst part. The Japanese are closest to their performance roots in the 90s vs the American performance roots of the 60s and early 70s, and yet it's the Americans who were able to get back into the performance game first.

Problem is the emissions that's what killed the type r. Only Japan got the Fd2. Would rather that than an 86

:lol:

Hmmm, I could use some profit...

Well they've already fugged up by saying it's not a priority to begin with. :bs: I know the designers from the 80-90's have gone off and retired but that's not to say that Honda could go back to their racing hoots heritage like how Toyota has recently done. Honda needs to bring back some soul and a perfect opportunity would be with a FR-S/BRZ competitor.

I'm calling it now... if Honda was really devoted in making a RWD, 2+2/roadster, 2.0 4cyl, and under 30K that looked good, it would blow the doors off the Scion and Subaru to moon. :D

Last time Honda Japan listened to Honda North America they ended up with a shitty Civic. Wait until Honda Japan wakes up again.

Honda, nissan, mazda... looks like everyone's finally catching on as expected. Shit is about to get real!

I wonder how those new European Pedestrian Laws are going to affect the size of the car

Honestly I think this is what honda needs, as well as Mazda with their joint project. Honda really needs to reclaim their throne in the performance world. I honestly cant name the last good looking and world renowned car they've built in the past 4 years.

aaaaand the NSX

I am definitely exaggerating I don't hate the thing but Honda could have done way better with it. Just disappointed with Honda's efforts in the past few years. The Mugen CR-Z was kind of interesting, its kinda what I expected the car to be at its launch time.

Yea, you can definitely tell that they've been really penny pinching lately. Dropping K24s into Civic Si, LEA in the CR-Z, using dinosaur age 5 speed transmissions in everything for as long as possible, and having almost zero new engines since forever. I'm surprised they even bothered with a 6MT in the CR-Z.

I've always been a Honda fan and always will be, but like others have mentioned, Honda has lost their touch (for performance, anyway). If they were still making the S2k when I was in the market for a new car, I would've bought that in a heartbeat. I can only hope they'll bring something back, if not make something new that reminds us of the older Hondas we all love. :)


Someday I'll have another Integra. Preferably a GSR or Type R.

I guess the other manufacturers aren't about that money.

Like, hmm, Toyota and Subaru captured a part of the market and is having trouble keeping cars on lots. Let's NOT make something to grab some of that marketshare.

Ok, so my question is...why, in an article about an S2K successor, are they pointing out these new models coming out? What revelance....does that have....to anything when it comes to this topic?

Feel sorry for the Honda nuts....cause we Toyota guys were in that same spot for many years.

They need to make a RWD Integra and give up on the S2K. We don't need a 40k sports car that has 250hp/165tq and weighs 2800 lb. Actually those numbers will be better suited to a 26k base car instead.

169 inches length
50.7 inches height
70 inches width
2+2
RWD
27-2800 lbs
250hp/165tq from a 2.2-2.4L,D/I with 8000 rpm redline

$26,500 manual
$27,700 auto

Every single car in Mazda's lineup is a drivers car............ what are you talking about?

I'll believe when I see it. Honda hasn't had anything exciting in their lineup since the s2000. And I'm sure their isn't a 'SUIT' that wants to continue the tradition and make an exciting car like Akio Toyoda.