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lazyfrs 06-18-2019 02:43 PM

Need advice
 
Alright. So I kinda screwed up. I tried drifting for the first time and it didnt go too well. At first glance I could tell I bent my control arm. Upon further investigation my buddies and I found more stuff bent. Tie rod, trailing arm, and upper control arm + ball joint. Purchased those parts and installed them myself. When I took her to get an alignment, they found my subframe has been bent. See link below.

https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo
https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo

What should I do to fix this last problem? The axels are fine and nothing else is messed up down there, except the subframe.

Would it be beneficial for me to unbend it myself with a torch and some hitting power? Replace the subframe myself? Or have it done by a shop?

Subframes are about $250 which isn't the cheapest but this is an expensive mistake that ive come to own up to. Any advice?

maslin 06-18-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyfrs (Post 3228670)
Alright. So I kinda screwed up. I tried drifting for the first time and it didnt go too well. At first glance I could tell I bent my control arm. Upon further investigation my buddies and I found more stuff bent. Tie rod, trailing arm, and upper control arm + ball joint. Purchased those parts and installed them myself. When I took her to get an alignment, they found my subframe has been bent. See link below.

https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo
https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo

What should I do to fix this last problem? The axels are fine and nothing else is messed up down there, except the subframe.

Would it be beneficial for me to unbend it myself with a torch and some hitting power? Replace the subframe myself? Or have it done by a shop?

Subframes are about $250 which isn't the cheapest but this is an expensive mistake that ive come to own up to. Any advice?

Replace it. Subframes are designed to give, like a crumple zone. Do it yourself or pay to have it done, totally dependent on your comfort level.

norcalpb 06-18-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazyfrs (Post 3228670)
Alright. So I kinda screwed up. I tried drifting for the first time and it didnt go too well. At first glance I could tell I bent my control arm. Upon further investigation my buddies and I found more stuff bent. Tie rod, trailing arm, and upper control arm + ball joint. Purchased those parts and installed them myself. When I took her to get an alignment, they found my subframe has been bent. See link below.

https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo
https://imgur.com/a/laXy0yo

What should I do to fix this last problem? The axels are fine and nothing else is messed up down there, except the subframe.

Would it be beneficial for me to unbend it myself with a torch and some hitting power? Replace the subframe myself? Or have it done by a shop?

Subframes are about $250 which isn't the cheapest but this is an expensive mistake that ive come to own up to. Any advice?

The subframe will also come with bushings. Frankly it’s a really good deal.

DarkPira7e 06-18-2019 03:56 PM

Crashing is not screwing up, it's learning. Make sure you can learn from this, or drifting won't go well for you at any point. It's a positive interaction between a desired result, and an actual result. It's just an expensive hobby, you'll get it!

Do not be discouraged.

EndlessAzure 06-18-2019 04:44 PM

If you can do it yourself, you can try. It's usually labor that kills you on most services.

Personally, I'd just leave it alone if I could. As long as it is still structurally good (no cracks in the metal beams) and there isn't any rubbing/interference, I would just keep the damaged one on there and regularly monitor it.

How did the alignment turn out? Were they able to dial it back to your desired specs? If the alignment couldn't be corrected, have you considered just upgrading to adjustable suspension components to allow you to dial the alignment in?

Turbo 06-18-2019 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazyfrs (Post 3228670)
Alright. So I kinda screwed up. I tried drifting for the first time and it didnt go too well. At first glance I could tell I bent my control arm. Upon further investigation my buddies and I found more stuff bent. Tie rod, trailing arm, and upper control arm + ball joint. Purchased those parts and installed them myself. When I took her to get an alignment, they found my subframe has been bent. See link below.


How/What did you hit that did all that damage?

maslin 06-18-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EndlessAzure (Post 3228716)
If you can do it yourself, you can try. It's usually labor that kills you on most services.

Personally, I'd just leave it alone if I could. As long as it is still structurally good (no cracks in the metal beams) and there isn't any rubbing/interference, I would just keep the damaged one on there and regularly monitor it.

How did the alignment turn out? Were they able to dial it back to your desired specs? If the alignment couldn't be corrected, have you considered just upgrading to adjustable suspension components to allow you to dial the alignment in?

It's not structurally good. When it is hit the mounts collapse and you replace the subframe. That would be the same as crashing the front and only replacing the sheet metal. Fix it properly and move on.

Lesson learned, don't do donuts next to curbs.

x808drifter 06-19-2019 11:10 PM

Drifting - Not "If" yo crash, but WHEN you crash.

churchx 06-20-2019 06:49 AM

Hence why important choosing location where one crashes :), to make inevitable mistakes, when learning, cost less. Big parking areas, tracks .. where even if one slides wrong it's not crash, just slide until stop in wide empty area or on grass/snow in runoff area. I had learned it in past in hard way too, except it was on front of car and even much more expensive then for OP.

wparsons 06-20-2019 01:59 PM

You'll never get the subframe fixed without a known good jig for it. Just buy the replacement and install it. "Looks close" doesn't work well on things like subframes and suspension components.


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