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kev0 05-31-2019 11:45 PM

Are sway bars worth it?
 
For those with sway bars, do you guys actually feel a difference when driving compared to not having a sway bar? I already have a decent shock/spring combination (Bilstein B8 w/ RCE Tarmacs) and I want to do more to my suspension so I'm looking at sway bars.

Do you guys honestly believe that sway bars are worth it?

Mr.ac 06-01-2019 02:41 AM

All depends on what the end goal is.
Daily driving, you're better off with better tires.
If you track/autox it on the regular it makes a noticeable difference.

Touge_Monster 06-01-2019 03:33 AM

Depending on what you plan on doing with the car. Yes, they are worth it compared to the stock sway bars.

86MLR 06-01-2019 03:35 AM

Correct dampers and spring combo first, then sways "if" you need to tweek more than the dampers let you.

Sway bars are a cheap bandaid solution for sub par shocks and springs.

Thicker/stiffer bars tend to sacrifice grip for handling characteristics.

Opinions may vary, track times do not.

nikitopo 06-01-2019 03:50 AM

Sway bars are used in our cars by the factory and they are not a band aid solution. They make handling worse only when the sizes and stiffness rates of the bars are going beyond reasonable limits. In fact they are a nice alternative if you want to have a relatively comfortable suspension on straights without much roll on corners. Good solution for a weekend fun and occasional race track car. People don't use them too much, because they want usually at same time to lower the car and in this case they don't work alone without changing the spring lengths and rates.

TommyW 06-01-2019 10:01 AM

As with most things, it depends.....
They can make things worse in some situations

Buntakumi 06-01-2019 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kev0 (Post 3223662)
For those with sway bars, do you guys actually feel a difference when driving compared to not having a sway bar? I already have a decent shock/spring combination (Bilstein B8 w/ RCE Tarmacs) and I want to do more to my suspension so I'm looking at sway bars.

Do you guys honestly believe that sway bars are worth it?

It really depends on what you want to use your car for.

For example, my Impreza has aftermarket suspension including upgraded sway bars. The setup is a great match for my driving style when I compete in autocross since it is adjusted and set up to drive the way I visualize the movement. But you gotta research and make sure the sway bars don't make the setting worse based on both handling feel and actual time result.

My stock tS feels great as is and it is my weekend street car so I don't see myself changing the suspension. Again, it really depends on your end goal for the car.

Also, I agree with Mr. ac's comment. If the car is just for daily driving, you are better off upgrading the tires. Sound advice right there.

Yoshoobaroo 06-01-2019 01:10 PM

I think the car NEEDS sway bars when you upgrade the tires, cause the added grip adds a lot of roll. Even on stock suspension my car turns harder, is more stable through transitions, and puts more power to the ground with sways.

norcalpb 06-01-2019 01:15 PM

I have the Perrin 19mm front and OEM 16mm rear. Definite decrease in body roll without adding too much discomfort.

I used to have the tarmac springs/Bilstein b6 with a hotchkis 25.4mm and it was rough AF so heed others’ advice on how going too big can be a problem.

wparsons 06-01-2019 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3223763)
I think the car NEEDS sway bars when you upgrade the tires, cause the added grip adds a lot of roll. Even on stock suspension my car turns harder, is more stable through transitions, and puts more power to the ground with sways.


A stiffer rear sway bar will decrease the amount of power you can put to the ground in a corner... go too big and it'll lift the inside rear tire and REALLY limit how much power you can put down.


Sway bars should be a fine tuning aid, not the first solution to increase roll stiffness.

churchx 06-01-2019 02:58 PM

I have suspicion that fight for decreasing roll often is done more to boost driver confidence to push more, not so much to actually improve suspension.

TommyW 06-01-2019 03:08 PM

Too many people put on larger rear bars to counter understeer and they end up chasing their tail. Some don't know how to rotate the car with the brakes and put on a thicker rear bar and call it job done

Ultramaroon 06-01-2019 03:13 PM

It is known.

Ultramaroon 06-01-2019 03:14 PM

Where's @Captain Snooze?


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