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csol 05-29-2019 06:29 PM

Subaru BRZ interior clock wrong
 
Hey guys just running into a very strange issue with my interior clock.

It keeps going out of sync, i first noticed it when i removed the negative terminal. Which is fair enough but i sent the time back and observed the car overnight my internal dashcam was still on so there was power to that which cuts off at 11.8v so its not that which is draining causing it.

Woke up checked the car by turning on ignition (two button presses)

Clock is like 35min infront of what it should be

I have no idea why this is happening

I can add that i replaced my headlights and the car has a hyperblinker so waiting to replace blinker module but i doubt that connects to the clock

Grady 05-29-2019 07:19 PM

The hyper blink is affecting the flux capacitor. But you already knew this because you are 35 min in the future.

DandoX 05-29-2019 07:46 PM

Simple solution, your out of blinker fluid. Just top it off and you should be good to go


I'm a big fan of this stuff:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....BL._SX425_.jpg

humfrz 05-29-2019 10:49 PM

Bunch of smart asses here - :slap:

I'd suggest you check the clock that you're using to calibrate your car's clock and make sure it's in sync with the atomic clock.

Then set the clock in your car again, this time, sober.

Maybe check the fuse that controls that circuit.

:D


humfrz

Mr.ac 05-30-2019 12:23 AM

Your car is fucked. Burn it, don't even bother trying to sell it no person will buy a car with out a working clock.

If you keep driving your clock is going to explode. The way the clock sits it's going right towards your nuts. For the love of everything holy save your nuts.


Keep in mind any new Civic SI don't have these bullshit problems.

radroach 05-30-2019 01:30 AM

I've had an issue where my clocks (car and phone) have a one-hour difference and it causes me confusion as well. Pretty sure it's my phone, I noticed it switch over one time when I climbed a mountain road.

RZNT4R 05-30-2019 03:59 AM

You might want to set your voltage threshold a but higher on that dashcam, 11.8 is very low. 12v lead acid batteries are considered full at 12.8 and discharged at 12.1.

Also, clocks like the ones in these cars are usually very simple, with just a power and ground to keep time, there are no external workings to it. The shop manual states if it loses our gains time rapidly, replace it.

csol 05-30-2019 04:23 AM

Thanks for the serious answers.
I will check the fuse for the clock but it should be fine otherwise it wouldnt be on.

This issue is very strange because its out of sync and I was wondering could it be a grounding issue? I ran some wires to a module for my headlights called BlueGhozt (its fused)

I'll change the powercut so its not less than 12v

Will update

csol 05-30-2019 07:14 AM

The clock is running fast it seems.
Not a battery issue i believe.
We syncd it and it ticks time faster than expected

why? 05-30-2019 08:18 AM

these things are dirt cheap, if your car is new I am sure it is covered by the warranty, just take it to the dealer and get it replaced.

maslin 05-30-2019 09:52 AM

The speed of the clock isn’t based on battery voltage. It would lose time every time you parked and speed up every time the alternator kicked in.

The clock would probably run down to 6 or 7 volts. If it’s on, it’s working. I would replace the clock.

csol 05-30-2019 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 3222915)
these things are dirt cheap, if your car is new I am sure it is covered by the warranty, just take it to the dealer and get it replaced.

Watch this, proof its out of sync
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kyOT0Q3Cw[/ame]

It makes sense if its 30secs out of sync then 5 hours later it makes a big difference.

I have no idea how this happened, my guess is me pulling off battery terminal caused a surge or something that fried one of the clock components.
Any ideas cause I'm lost.
Will be calling up Subaru to get them to have a look.

Quote:

Digital clocks use a high frequency oscillator to divide down and create a time beat to run the clock.

If the clock is an AC wall or desk clock or even an appliance like a microwave, they use the 60 Hz or 50 Hz line frequency for that time base.

Watches and other devices (i.e., car clocks) not on the AC line use an internal high frequency oscillator that is divided down to 60 Hz or some multiple.

If your clock is is the latter, then you probably have a failing oscillator.

If it is the former, then something is bad in the 60/50 Hz line frequency detection circuitry.
https://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/88...r-Gaining-Time

^ could this be true

DarkPira7e 05-30-2019 10:49 AM

You need to close some tabs dude

Tcoat 05-30-2019 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3222942)
The speed of the clock isn’t based on battery voltage. It would lose time every time you parked and speed up every time the alternator kicked in.

The clock would probably run down to 6 or 7 volts. If it’s on, it’s working. I would replace the clock.

This ^
I am sure the place that Subaru bought the 1986 vintage clocks still have them in stock.


http://kwtri4b8r0ep8ho61118ipob.wpen...31469370-2.jpg

csol 05-30-2019 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3222968)
This ^
I am sure the place that Subaru bought the 1986 vintage clocks still have them in stock.


http://kwtri4b8r0ep8ho61118ipob.wpen...31469370-2.jpg

https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_20...5201CA060.html

Look at that price lmao

Tcoat 05-30-2019 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csol (Post 3222974)

They want $135 for that clock? Really? REALLY?
Find an auto wrecker and offer them $5 for one.

maslin 05-30-2019 12:17 PM

You need to re-wind the tourbillon. 25 circle left, then 25 circles right, parking lot speed.

https://www.watchonista.com/sites/de...inal-image.jpg

cburz 05-30-2019 01:53 PM

I have had the same problem with the clock running fast. Fixed it by disconnecting the battery, waiting a bit to make sure all the power is drained, and then reconnecting the battery.

why? 05-30-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csol (Post 3222947)
Watch this, proof its out of sync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kyOT0Q3Cw

It makes sense if its 30secs out of sync then 5 hours later it makes a big difference.

I have no idea how this happened, my guess is me pulling off battery terminal caused a surge or something that fried one of the clock components.
Any ideas cause I'm lost.
Will be calling up Subaru to get them to have a look.


https://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/88...r-Gaining-Time

^ could this be true

you are trying way too hard. Go to the dealer get it fixed under warranty. No big deal. Seconds off who the hell cares.

Dadhawk 05-30-2019 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3222976)
They want $135 for that clock? Really? REALLY?
Find an auto wrecker and offer them $5 for one.

Well, to be fair, it's the whole panel, so it's not just the clock, it's also the emergency lights, and the seatbelt indicators.

So it's probably really worth $9 not $5.

HKz 05-30-2019 02:40 PM

ya know, mine naturally runs pretty fast too...granted it ain't as bad as OP's as over a year it only accumulates being ahead 5-10 minutes but I've always appreciated that it would force me to drive even harder to ensure I get to work on time ^^

Trueweltall 05-30-2019 02:48 PM

Mine ends up reading too slow by about two to three minutes when compared with my phone.

Capt Spaulding 05-30-2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3223070)
Mine ends up reading too slow by about two to three minutes when compared with my phone.

You should trade clocks with the OP. As they pass in transit the speed differential will equalize and you'll each have a clock that works as intended.

JD001 05-30-2019 05:11 PM

A few things in my car that I don't look at because they irritate:


1. Stupid 1970s digital clock
2. Stupid 1970s ICE with green lighting that doesn't match the general amber lighting of the dash, and
3. Speedo.. when we have digital readout..




So who gives a fuck that a $0.50c 1970s clock is fast or slow..

csol 05-30-2019 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3223155)
A few things in my car that I don't look at because they irritate:


1. Stupid 1970s digital clock
2. Stupid 1970s ICE with green lighting that doesn't match the general amber lighting of the dash, and
3. Speedo.. when we have digital readout..


So who gives a fuck that a $0.50c 1970s clock is fast or slow..



Because its way off than it should be? The time goes 1hour out of sync? Lol pretty self explanatory
Quote:

Originally Posted by cburz (Post 3223033)
I have had the same problem with the clock running fast. Fixed it by disconnecting the battery, waiting a bit to make sure all the power is drained, and then reconnecting the battery.

Thanks I will try that!

Stang70Fastback 05-30-2019 06:56 PM

Lots of people here who apparently don't understand that some of us simply don't like when things aren't working right, and can't just "ignore" them.

I generally don't use the clock on the microwave in our house either, but if it was constantly getting way out of sync with everything else, I'd still probably drop coin on a new microwave. I'm way too OCD to just be okay with something being broken and displaying incorrect information, and way too OCD to solve it by covering it up with tape, or some other half-assed solution.

RZNT4R 05-30-2019 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3222976)
They want $135 for that clock? Really? REALLY?
Find an auto wrecker and offer them $5 for one.

Not likely, the clock itself is simple, but the housing contains the passenger side airbag and seatbelt indicators.

humfrz 05-30-2019 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3223155)
A few things in my car that I don't look at because they irritate:


1. Stupid 1970s digital clock
2. Stupid 1970s ICE with green lighting that doesn't match the general amber lighting of the dash, and
3. Speedo.. when we have digital readout..




So who gives a fuck that a $0.50c 1970s clock is fast or slow..

Our cars have a clock? - :iono:


humfrz

humfrz 05-30-2019 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3223187)
Lots of people here who apparently don't understand that some of us simply don't like when things aren't working right, and can't just "ignore" them.

I generally don't use the clock on the microwave in our house either, but if it was constantly getting way out of sync with everything else, I'd still probably drop coin on a new microwave. I'm way too OCD to just be okay with something being broken and displaying incorrect information, and way too OCD to solve it by covering it up with tape, or some other half-assed solution.

Good luck with the aging process - ;)


humfrz

Tcoat 05-30-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3223187)
Lots of people here who apparently don't understand that some of us simply don't like when things aren't working right, and can't just "ignore" them.

I generally don't use the clock on the microwave in our house either, but if it was constantly getting way out of sync with everything else, I'd still probably drop coin on a new microwave. I'm way too OCD to just be okay with something being broken and displaying incorrect information, and way too OCD to solve it by covering it up with tape, or some other half-assed solution.

OCPD not OCD.
OCD would be if you kept changing the microwave even if the clock was working fine. OCPD is changing the microwave because the clock doesn't work right and that bothers your sense of order.

My constantly pointing out this difference is an OCPD trait.

csol 05-30-2019 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3223187)
Lots of people here who apparently don't understand that some of us simply don't like when things aren't working right, and can't just "ignore" them.

I generally don't use the clock on the microwave in our house either, but if it was constantly getting way out of sync with everything else, I'd still probably drop coin on a new microwave. I'm way too OCD to just be okay with something being broken and displaying incorrect information, and way too OCD to solve it by covering it up with tape, or some other half-assed solution.

It's not even because I'm unhappy about it being 1 -5min delayed its like hours wrong because it progressively gets faster and I use the clock in the car, I don't understand why people think this is some trivial issue or dumb.

I will try to remove the battery terminal and see if it resolves the issue.

Dadhawk 05-31-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3223187)
….I generally don't use the clock on the microwave in our house either, but if it was constantly getting way out of sync with everything else, I'd still probably drop coin on a new microwave..

I don't think it's really OCD, or OCPD, you just like things to work as designed. I'm that way, particularly about clocks which are supposed to show you the current time, not some past time, or some future time, the correct established time right now...

The clock in the 86 is easy enough to set, you just wait until the top of the hour and push the ":00" button. I've noticed mine gets out of synch with my cell phone (my "clock of reference") enough I usually have to update it about 3 times a year. So, by my estimate it drifts about 3 minutes a year.

As far as kitchen clocks, its a ritual in our house if we have a power outage. We have a clock on the microwave, one on the oven. I reset them separately but so that they both change time within a blink of one another. I set one by my phone, waiting for the minute to change to press start. Then repeat on the other, setting it one minute later.

The aggravating thing is that when we rehabbed our kitchen last year, the Samsung range we purchased is an IoT device, but it doesn't reset it's own clock.

MomHawk, on the other hand, is a "set my clock ahead so I'm not late" type person. Her alarm clock is set 30 minutes ahead of real time, her car is about 5 minutes ahead. I gave up that fight along time ago.

Capt Spaulding 05-31-2019 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3223228)
OCPD not OCD.
OCD would be if you kept changing the microwave even if the clock was working fine. OCPD is changing the microwave because the clock doesn't work right and that bothers your sense of order.

My constantly pointing out this difference is an OCPD trait.

I am a little concerned that you know so much about this.

Tcoat 05-31-2019 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 3223573)
I am a little concerned that you know so much about this.

My son has OCD. It is controlled by medication now and only mildly interferes with his life these days. Used to be really bad. He would leave the house. Walk a half a block away and then get panicked that he didn’t lock the door and go back and check. Ten or twelve times. He knew it was locked but his OCD made him go back and check anyway. That is just one example of how it would take over and he could have dozens of other triggers in a day. Caring about order and wanting things a certain way is not OCD even though it is one of the most misused terms around.

csol 06-04-2019 04:25 PM

Removing the battery terminal did not seem it fix the problem

humfrz 06-05-2019 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3223303)
I don't think it's really OCD, or OCPD, you just like things to work as designed. I'm that way, particularly about clocks which are supposed to show you the current time, not some past time, or some future time, the correct established time right now...

The clock in the 86 is easy enough to set, you just wait until the top of the hour and push the ":00" button. I've noticed mine gets out of synch with my cell phone (my "clock of reference") enough I usually have to update it about 3 times a year. So, by my estimate it drifts about 3 minutes a year.

As far as kitchen clocks, its a ritual in our house if we have a power outage. We have a clock on the microwave, one on the oven. I reset them separately but so that they both change time within a blink of one another. I set one by my phone, waiting for the minute to change to press start. Then repeat on the other, setting it one minute later.

The aggravating thing is that when we rehabbed our kitchen last year, the Samsung range we purchased is an IoT device, but it doesn't reset it's own clock.

MomHawk, on the other hand, is a "set my clock ahead so I'm not late" type person. Her alarm clock is set 30 minutes ahead of real time, her car is about 5 minutes ahead. I gave up that fight along time ago.

So, are you telling me that no one in your family is really sure of what time it is? - :confused0068:

Short story. Back a few years ago, I gave my father (in his 90s at the time and couldn't hardly see - except to drive) a "talking" watch. I told him it was an atomic talking watch. To set it, just lay it upside down in window sill a couple times a year.

One day, about a year later, he called and said his watch quit working. I asked him if he had changed the battery. He said "no, you told me it was an atomic watch".


THE END


humfrz

humfrz 06-05-2019 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csol (Post 3224613)
Removing the battery terminal did not seem it fix the problem

I'm thinking you need a new clock, or just cut the wire to that sucker and forget about it - :thumbsup:


humfrz

CoolHandMoss 06-05-2019 06:44 AM

The clock in my FR-S used to go an hour or two out of sync for an hour or two and then return. It was terribly strange. It would go from 2:59 to 5:00 and then from 5:59 to 4:00 or something like that. But only sometimes. Not every day.

csol 06-05-2019 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3224719)
I'm thinking you need a new clock, or just cut the wire to that sucker and forget about it - :thumbsup:


humfrz

Nevermind, all good now I believe.
Removed battery terminal waited 15-20min this time and then tried turning car on. Fixed timing issue :)

Dadhawk 06-05-2019 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3224716)
So, are you telling me that no one in your family is really sure of what time it is? - :confused0068:

Does anyone really know what time it is?
Does anyone really care about time?

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3224716)
Short story. Back a few years ago, I gave my father (in his 90s at the time and couldn't hardly see - except to drive) a "talking" watch. I told him it was an atomic talking watch. To set it, just lay it upside down in window sill a couple times a year.

One day, about a year later, he called and said his watch quit working. I asked him if he had changed the battery. He said "no, you told me it was an atomic watch". THE END humfrz

You just gave him the wrong watch. I have an atomic clock watch that is also solar powered. Unfortunately it doesn't talk.

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