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TachyonBomb 05-03-2019 12:54 AM

Works Motorsports sent me a cease and desist letter
 
Update: May 2nd 2019

Got this in the mail today.
I'll just leave this cease & desist letter here and let it speak for itself.

https://i.imgur.com/ZK76JPb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HCxoh3U.jpg

What do you guys think about it?

I find it interesting what businesses would do to all of us when they think they know the mailing address of the person behind a social media or forum account.

Follow the link below for more details

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134445

soundman98 05-03-2019 02:02 AM

A lot of people get scared by big legal sounding documents and do as they say. Considering the history, i would at least consult a lawyer about the current situation.

My personal opinion is that as long as you state the true and verifiable facts of everything, there's nothing legally wrong with what you're doing, raising awareness for how they screwed you over. A company can be defined by how they choose to make a situation right. Whether that's negative or not is up to them.

I'm starting to suspect they have no money to pay the court settlement.

TachyonBomb 05-03-2019 02:10 AM

Yup, I agree. After calling around to several law offices and several different county small claims advice lines, It doesn't seem like a stretch that work on this attorneys Porsche or GTR is being done in exchange for his services.

A few of the law offices laughed at the idea that an attorney is even wasting their time on this case after I explained the details to them.

VIP BRZ 05-03-2019 02:03 PM

His signature looks like a poorly scribbled dong :P

weederr33 05-03-2019 02:47 PM

Uh oh, better be careful, they will send you another C&D for posting on Forums about your experience! lol

TachyonBomb 05-04-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3214147)
Uh oh, better be careful, they will send you another C&D for posting on Forums about your experience! lol

Does Works really have a presence here though? Outside of 2 threads which are really old, there really is not much posted by them or on them here.

weederr33 05-04-2019 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb (Post 3214385)
Does Works really have a presence here though? Outside of 2 threads which are really old, there really is not much posted by them or on them here.

Idk. They seem pretty petty if they are attacking your social media posts.

TachyonBomb 05-05-2019 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3214427)
Idk. They seem pretty petty if they are attacking your social media posts.

Agreed!

So everyone is clear about the letter it is trying to tell me to not tell everyone to go to the Instagram account under the name @Xtra_slw and look at or re-post the mulit-picture posts which are talking about someones first hand account dealing with works motorsports to spread relevant news which would be of interest to the intended audience of car enthusiasts.

Just to repeat:

Please do not visit the Instagram account @Xtra_slw

Please do not look under the hashtag #WorksMotorsports

Please do not look under the location tag "Works Motorsports"

Please do not look at or re-post any of the pictures which are trying to share a customers first hand experience with works motorsports.

Do not re-post any of those first hand accounts with the hashtag #WorksMotorsports

Do not re-post any of those first hand accounts with the location tag "works motorsports"

Do not spread this story with the rest of the automotive enthusiast community.

weederr33 05-05-2019 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb (Post 3214693)
Agreed!

So everyone is clear about the letter it is trying to tell me to not tell everyone to go to the Instagram account under the name @Xtra_slw and look at or re-post the mulit-picture posts which are talking about someones first hand account dealing with works motorsports to spread relevant news which would which would be of interest to the intended audience of car enthusiasts.

Just to repeat:

Please do not visit the Instagram account @Xtra_slw

Please do not look under the hashtag #WorksMotorsports

Please do not look under the location tag "Works Motorsports"

Please do not look at or re-post any of the pictures which are trying to share a customers first hand experience with works motorsports.

Do not re-post any of those first hand accounts with the hashtag #WorksMotorsports

Do not re-post any of those first hand accounts with the location tag "works motorsports"

Do not spread this story with the rest of the automotive enthusiast community.

Oh. Ok. I guess I have to unfollow you now lol

TachyonBomb 05-06-2019 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3214696)
Oh. Ok. I guess I have to unfollow you now lol

Ya man sorry.

It was good while it lasted, time to pack up shop and stop posting on the "official works motorsports instagram".

Maybe I can try spreading my story on Grindr, I don't think works motorsports has a presence there... or do they?? :iono:

TachyonBomb 05-06-2019 12:08 AM

This guy just man-splained to me how I can't be feeling like works motorsports stole money from me. The counter argument to libel in court is if the defendant in a libel case (me) 100% believes what he is say is the truth.

How the hell could I believing anything other then they stole, defrauded, scammed, conducted deceptive business practices when I believed it to the point that I am suing them in small claims court.

He is really trying to #MeToo silence me and man-splain my own feelings of my own case to me. LOL!!!!

weederr33 05-06-2019 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb (Post 3214705)
Ya man sorry.

It was good while it lasted, time to pack up shop and stop posting on the "official works motorsports instagram".

Maybe I can try spreading my story on Grindr, I don't think works motorsports has a presence there... or do they?? :iono:

Well just post pro-work's content and confuse everyone!

boostfedbrz 05-09-2019 06:20 PM

Didn’t you ask them to remove the turbo kit because you lost your job and we’re too broke to afford it?

boostfedbrz 05-09-2019 07:32 PM

Libel is telling a publicly posted false statement. You say works Motorsports stoke money from you. That is false. You paid them and then you took them to court. If they stole money from you it would have been criminal and you could have gone after them through that avenue, however, you didn’t so you must realize that your statement “works Motorsports stole from me” is false.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-10-2019 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostfedbrz (Post 3215916)
Libel is telling a publicly posted false statement. You say works Motorsports stoke money from you. That is false. You paid them and then you took them to court. If they stole money from you it would have been criminal and you could have gone after them through that avenue, however, you didn’t so you must realize that your statement “works Motorsports stole from me” is false.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostfedbrz (Post 3215898)
Didn’t you ask them to remove the turbo kit because you lost your job and we’re too broke to afford it?

Libel in court is not as cut and dry as you define it being a public false statement. There are so many different paths of defense on whether a statement is truth or privileged, free comment, or opinion as I believe it is in this case. This guy has had legal dealing with works in the past and won, and they seem outwardly to want to silence any references to how Peter Kang dealt with this guy.

Did we see the same post?:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...96#post3213496

chanklins 05-10-2019 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb (Post 3214385)
Does Works really have a presence here though? Outside of 2 threads which are really old, there really is not much posted by them or on them here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostfedbrz (Post 3215916)
Libel is telling a publicly posted false statement. You say works Motorsports stoke money from you. That is false. You paid them and then you took them to court. If they stole money from you it would have been criminal and you could have gone after them through that avenue, however, you didn’t so you must realize that your statement “works Motorsports stole from me” is false.

TachyonBomb, looks like Works just created an account on this forum :bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::belly roll::bellyroll::bellyroll:

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-12-2019 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb (Post 3214385)
Does Works really have a presence here though? Outside of 2 threads which are really old, there really is not much posted by them or on them here.

Well forgot to mention they do have an account, but it's not like they've been doing whatever process is needed to keep it at vendor account or sponsorship status, in fact a lot of vendors tend to let that die out if they do multiple vehicles and skews, it seems alot of good vendors still are sponsoring this site, most of which I still purchase from. However here's their account:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/member.php?u=74887

Last activity on it was 2 days ago at around 5pm so be weary they are definitely looking at your posts :lol:

soundman98 05-12-2019 07:57 PM

Valid sponsorship accounts depend on how the forum is ran. Whether it's a monthly/yearly fee, or a one-time fee. Other forums I'm on have 'sponsors' that closed down operations many years ago.

TachyonBomb 05-14-2019 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostfedbrz (Post 3215898)
Didn’t you ask them to remove the turbo kit because you lost your job and we’re too broke to afford it?

Works had my car from July 2017 - July 2018

They first told me that the project would be done in 3 months so around Oct/Nov 2017.

I started telling them I needed my car back in Jan 2018. I kept stating that I need my car back soon because this project went way over schedule.

Every time I would make it clear I that I would like my car back soon, they would give me a new finish date which would always be just around the corner to try to keep stringing me along.

It was clear the game they were playing with making excuses to keep my car longer. So I forced their hand to give me my car back with something they couldn't wiggle out of.

The wiggling they did can be see in many of our email conversations.

No one should accept that sort of conduct out of a shop and then expect you to shift your life around to meet their laggyness. I was told 3 months initially and went into things making accommodations for those first 3 months. But after month 6 or 8 or 10 or 12 life moves on and I needed my car back.

You seem to really be arguing that it is ok for a shop to lie to you over a project timeline over and over again and then have them keep your car for an indefinite amount of time.

Sorry that's not how the real world works and its not how the real world should be expected to work.


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