who's rocket bunny? stance sucks.

Sorry officer, I’ll go into more details. I joined to ask a question, but by the time I got the approval, it took a while from signing up to get approval, works had gotten back to me so I had no need to ask. Mr Jones has provided his story enough places we all know his side. Being that Pete isn’t a broke kid who couldn’t afford his turbo kit, I trust him a bit more.

I’m done here though. I’ll see you all at the grocery store parking lot meets. Lol. I promise you I’m not Pete, he’s way more awesome than I am.

Alot of tuning company parts companys provide decent parts without trying to countersue those that review them poorly.

Also works definitely uses forums as their accounts have been active just a day or so ago.

Defending them because you know people their personally is tantamount to clearly defending them on their behalf. You also should've had the knowledge to know had you posted enough you would've been able to post a thread.....

lol, so the main justification here is that works is better because they have more money? if they're so superior, why did they lose the court case then? if they're better, why did it even have to go to court? and have they actually paid back the court ordered settlement? if they've got money, and the court ordered them to do something, you'd think they'd just do it and wipe their hands of it.

but what do i know, most companies i've dealt with tend to handle things well before it reaches the point of going to court.

you came onto the forum with a bat :paddle:, and then act surprised when we all grab our riot gear. it's a big forum here, half my posts are bs-ing with others in off topic. i'm mostly here because forums are going away with facebook groups, and the forums i used to take part in are dying. there's an active community of people here, so that's where i'm at too.

interestingly enough, most of the stuff you claimed to have an issue with-- stancing and body kits, is less of an issue here because forums are an old man's game. it's not hard to make friends when you try to be amicable to others.

Confirmed...is Pete. :D

Dude, just stop. You are not helping Works here at all. If they are reading this all go down in here and you really aren't in any way part of their company,
they should have reigned you in by now and asked for you to just remain silent. If you are in fact part of Works, then by all means keep digging that hole.

I have a feeling, even if this guy ends up not being Works' Pete, it will still help OP's argument.

TachyonBomb made another account to make Works look like they made the account to defend themselves by making a fake customer account and eventually be called out for it! It's Accountception.

Of course it will, he's spoken with Peter and the works team long enough to supposedly know some full backstory. That literally means he's friends with them so it's only going to look bad on Works and doesn't help any case.

I actually did like the works turbo kit, it's kind of a different take too and keeps whatever header you have as well as looked OEM, I just didn't like the way they dealt with this guy. Also way back when I purchased my axle-back I was looking into the works ABM and avoided it due to the sound as well as supposed quality issues anyhow. If you're going to post to have people help develop the next gen turbo kit at least follow through and be ready to pay out the owner if something goes bad.

You really do sound like the "muscle" in sweat pants that peter kang brought with him to the first court date.

Either way this will be fun!!!

In July 2017 works offered me a loaner car when I dropped off my car.
I declined the loaner car at that moment because works told me it would take 3 months to complete the job. I had a daily car already so I figured it would be a waste of everyone's time and effort.

In Jan 2018 the job was 2-3 months over schedule at this time. My daily was having some issues, it had 300,000 miles on it and it was time to let it go or junk it. I let works know about my car needs so that maybe it could light a fire under them to meet their deadlines because I would be needing my brz back.

In Jan 2018 peter kang responded to me in an email saying that a production version of the turbo kit would be done by the end of Feb 2018. So I decided to just stick out the daily car troubles for one month longer.

In March 2018 I asked works for an update since the Feb completion date had come and gone. They gave me a bunch of excuses and said there were delays again. At this time I said I would like to take them up on the borrowing a car offer if the project was going to take longer than one month from March 2018.

May 2018, 2 months go by and works has ignored my phone calls and emails this whole period. Peter Kang sends me an update which is filled with more excuses and delays. I remind Peter Kang that I requested to borrow a car 2 months ago in my March 2018 email.

June 2018 Peter Kang finally brings me a silver frs to borrow.

July 2018, peter told me of more delays and it was clear that after 12 months this project is never getting done and he has wasted my time. I realized I'm looking foolish letting this go on any longer and I'm making loan/insurance payments for a year on my new brz just to be driving a beat up older frs for 1 month to a guy/shop that was literally full of excuses and at square one 12 months after the project started.

I also have plenty of emails proving all this, along with the 2 months of not answering me back any of my request or questions.


Cool story.

Like I said I have plenty of emails showing that you got lied to by works or told a very edited/skewed version of things.


You apparently don't know both sides. You seem to not even know the full details of the borrowed car situation. Don't be a sheep. My DM's are always open.

ACTUALLY!!!! No they are not. Because Garrett stopped production of the GT28 turbo that they used in their kit for CARB testing. In another email back in the spring of 2018 works told me about the halt in production and said they will be selling their kits with a different turbo. If they no longer provide the basic old school gt28 turbo with their kits or change any other component of their CARB approved kit, it is no longer CARB legal and it is illegal to sell these changed kits as CARB approved. Sorry to break it to you but there are no longer any new CARB legal works turbo kits. They have to go through new testing and new approval to get anything without the old school gt28 CARB certified.

Door Dashing is an honorable career.


No lies here, hence all the proof I posted. Since I posted about my experience there have actually been a good amount of people coming out of the woodwork in my DM's and sharing their bad experience with works, with proof for each story.

There is also a few older evo forum threads of customers sharing their bad experiences about works. Do a search on evoM and if you can find archived posts from the long dead "norcalEvo" search around there too.

You do know I prepayed works for the turbo kit 3 months into the 12 month timeline. So I guess I'm a broke "kid", I'll take that as a compliment. I guess it's true when they say Black don't crack lol.

Man you really do sound like that embarrassing sweat pants troll peter kang brought to the original court date to try to intimidate me. Its really uncanny how similar you sound to him. :iono:

Who says stuff like this...lol. It's just weird.

You try to diminish the value in others asking you how you received your information. Belittling them by calling them "officer" like they're interrogating you. They simply are asking you to back up your statements. You sound like an ass when the isn't any reason to be.

If you have additional information that we haven't been made aware of, state your case so we can look at it objectively. Also, in your opinion what did the court get wrong in the initial ruling then? Did you present the information you have in a clear logical manner to them? At this time, in a court of law, it looks like they decide in favor of the OP.

Don't mean to come in like a wrecking ball, but I believe Works actually uses a Garrett GT28 turbo. It's what they advertise and I looked it up under their EO and it says GT28 as well.

I've always gotten a kick out of performance shop groupies. They don't have enough knowledge to bolt on their own header yet they come on forums like this and accuse others of being idiots. I actually find this forum more technical than many others.

Sorry, correction it was the basic gt28 non-ball bearing which according to works in an email of mine is having its production halted indefinitely. Just replace all the gt25's with gt28's.

You can always give Garrett a call to confirm as well. I haven't double checked with them to see if the info checks out.

Keep us updated man, I'm pulling for you. Your patience should be commended

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it's like kicking a gerbil. it's not a very nice thing to do, but it makes a cool sound as it flies through the air.

Welcome to the gerbil kicking group, fam.

have you tried chihuahua's? with the right foot technique they sound a little like boostfedbrz and scooby doo in a washing machine

LMFAO!!!! :bonk:

"I promise you I’m not Pete, he’s way more awesome than I am."


LOL. Suck his **** much?

Any case updates tachyonbomb?

You quoted all that to ask for an update?

The court date is next week. Tach is doing the smart thing and laying low until it is over.

he quoted all that and missed the part where OP listed the trial date and location.

Thought it was may24th from memory, and I quoted it all by mistake

Made me scroll for seconds!

Fixed :lol:

It's also not unheard of to have changes with the case or continuances granted for certain reasons, was just curious...

I understand that, but the updated info was put in the post on 5/2. Either this is being settled out of court or OP is being smart by not discussing ongoing litigation prior to the court date.

There's a reason why companies never comment before a pending court case... anything they say in public can be used against them. Anyone involved in an open court case would be wise to shut up in public.

Driving from the south bay to Santa Rosa sucks!

There was an accident on the bay bridge which caused traffic to back up a lot around Oakland. I left my place at 5:30 AM thinking I would have plenty of time to have a quick breakfast in Santa Rosa before starting court at 8:30AM. But NOPE!!!! It took me the full 3 hours to make it to the court house with 5 minutes to spare.

The Judge will make a judgement in the next few weeks. I'm super tired to go into detail about what happened and I need a nap after driving all day. But it should be noted that the Judges reactions along with the reactions of the people in the crowd to Works Motorsports arguments was very amusing! The people sitting behind me had the best live commentary as my case was being heard.

I'm very glad that this part of the process is over. It was much easier this time around than it was the first time.

OK

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i'm no laywer, so updates like this scare me. maybe this is enough to find you in contempt, maybe not. but for me, i don't want to see your case get screwed up updating rando's on the internet about the whole thing. i'm perfectly fine with hearing about all of it once it's over.

Yes people need to be very careful what is said prior to a court case so posting info needs to be restricted. The case has now been heard though so anything said after that can not be entered into evidence nor considered as part of the claims. On the other hand Tach is still best off to be very careful what is said until he has the decision on paper. If I recall this was the appeal presented by Works so whichever way it goes is the end of this case.
Don't think that Tach was criticizing the judge there but simply stating that his reactions to the evidence presented by Works was amusing. I have spent a far amount of time in court rooms for work over the last 30 years and it is not unusual at all t be able to guess how the ruling will play out just from the judge's reactions to statements.

Yeah, not anything in particular, just don't want to see this get screwed up for him. Works has proven they're a petty, spiteful group of people by allowing the situation to escalate to this point. I wouldn't put it past them to get more desperate and try to come up with ammunition of some sort to discredit Tach...

Updates?

Wow, what a rollercoaster. Brings back memories of FA20club and the guy for whom they were building an engine an a turbo kit which took over a year (maybe more I don't remember) with nothing but a beatup car to show for...

It's already a classic to have some local "sheep" jump in and defend with teeth these shady shops. Thanks for sharing and preventing some others to get scammed and/or unknowingly support shady businesses.

Had a buddy with a similar situation to this, engine build on a EJ25 for his STI. Was at shop for over a year. Was regarded as "the best" engine builder for the EJ in the early 2000s. 18 months later no engine, he showed up and the dude about lost it when he was like ummmm you wanna know about your engine? Then a month later after progress had actually been made his shop was "broken into". At that time we cut loses and made insurance claim against stolen engine and bought a cosworth :party0030:

Throwback to the visconti tuning posts:

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I distinctly remember fa20club and visconti tuning, that was the time period I hadn't owned the car yet, but had lurked around the forums enough and already had a mod list. Thankfully a whole lot of the "bad" vendors had been weeded out by the point I entered the game. People piped up to defend them both when the incidents happened and the truth had come out, still don't get why people do that.

Fa20club boss had a well known criminal history and poor knowledge of tuning.
Visconti was known for shoddy work with the GTR platform.

I remember lurking around the time they were big. It put me off from buy mods and made me realize a catback was about the only thing I wanted. Given my FR-S was my first car to ever mod let alone purchase on my own, I didn't want to mess it up. It wasn't till Cosworth came out with their Stage 1 set ups way back that I felt confident to actually modify my car.

That's kinda where I'm at right now. Not the first car I buy or mod on my own, but definitely one that I want to be more careful with. Sure it's not a twin turbo V8 or anything, but still lol I can see why you'd be put off from modding your car with stories like that. I think we have an abundance of reliable and trustworthy brands for our platform now and it's good that these forums can shed light on those that are not so.

Well Tachy, any verdict yet?



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