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kev0 04-23-2019 03:06 AM

Best place to get a brand new engine?
 
I'm planning on keeping my 86 forever. It'll sit in the garage for a long time if I have to.

I accept the fact that the engine will eventually give out, although stock. Where will be the best place for me to purchase a brand new engine besides the dealership? I heard that I can get a new IAG FA20 short block but those are intended for FI'd vehicles. Will it work if I'm not FI'd? Would I need a short block AND a long block or will the short block do just fine?

MrDinkleman 04-23-2019 03:47 AM

Way 'back in the day" before "crate engines" became so readily available, people used to say that a "seasoned" used engine, properly remanufactured/rebuilt was better than buying a new engine over-the-counter at your local Chevy/Ford/Mopar dealer. Don't know if that was true then or now, though. Maybe buy a used engine now, rebuild it, and then seal it up for future use?

A "short block" is generally just the block with internals. A "long blick" usually means the short block with head(s) including the valve train.

86MLR 04-23-2019 04:28 AM

"Built" motors tend to not last as long as OEM, because tolerances.

If staying NA just wait till it is tired at ???, 000 miles and rebuild to OEM spec with OEM parts.

I wish I had a dollar for every claim of, "I'm going to keep this car forever", which was then sold a few years later.

I'd have lots of dollars......

NARFALICIOUS 04-23-2019 04:30 AM

Why new?
It would be a better use of your money to get a used engine and rebuild it.

Even if money is no issue, pay for it to get rebuilt to your liking by a reputable shop.


btw if it's not from Toyota, you're likely not getting new anyways.


I just checked online, and full engine assembly is no longer available - https://parts.toyota.com/a/Scion_201...4410-1101.html

only short block - https://parts.toyota.com/a/Scion_201...4410-1102.html

churchx 04-23-2019 05:03 AM

Maybe full engine not available because replaced with newer one as in 2016-?

86MLR 04-23-2019 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3210762)
Maybe full engine not available because replaced with newer one as in 2016-?

$23,464.28

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jcw99 04-23-2019 09:56 AM

IAG can do most anything you'll need
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev0 (Post 3210753)
I'm planning on keeping my 86 forever. It'll sit in the garage for a long time if I have to.

I accept the fact that the engine will eventually give out, although stock. Where will be the best place for me to purchase a brand new engine besides the dealership? I heard that I can get a new IAG FA20 short block but those are intended for FI'd vehicles. Will it work if I'm not FI'd? Would I need a short block AND a long block or will the short block do just fine?

Give them a call and ask for John - he's very helpful, and their service is great. They have customers from all over the place - I saw a review on a tune done there written by a guy from Illinois. Luckily for me, I'm only 35 miles from them.

JD001 04-23-2019 10:57 AM

Why not buy another Twin to keep it company in your garage? You can butcher one to keep the other one healthy, much like organ donation.

Fill the engine with oil, stick it on axle stands and invest in a carcoon cover...

the new guy 04-23-2019 01:45 PM

car-part.com for engines pulled out of wrecked vehicles would be your option for used. A proper salvage yard will verify its running, test compression, and refund a core charge if you sent a bad one back.

maslin 04-23-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS (Post 3210761)
btw if it's not from Toyota, you're likely not getting new anyways.

Even from Toyota it's almost guaranteed to be a reman. Our reman engines are well under $10k. New they're closer to $40k.

Nearly everything of significant value is remanufactured these days, even from the dealer.

Lantanafrs2 04-23-2019 06:34 PM

By the time your car needs a motor you probably won't even remember this forum. Relax lol

Lantanafrs2 04-23-2019 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3210858)
Even from Toyota it's almost guaranteed to be a reman. Our reman engines are well under $10k. New they're closer to $40k.

Nearly everything of significant value is remanufactured these days, even from the dealer.

40k for an fa20? No way

86MLR 04-23-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3210991)
40k for an fa20? No way

It comes with a complete car to aid in moving the engine

maslin 04-23-2019 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3210991)
40k for an fa20? No way

Mercedes. I put a $60k engine in a $65k car a few years back :D


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