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mitama 04-17-2019 11:27 PM

I just got a quote to fix my car... what do you think?
 
Do you think it's reasonable to fix my 2018 BRZ performance package??

What do you think about the price..? This quote for fixing my car 100% including airbag systems. Please help.

https://imgur.com/a/vXSVrTK

Please see : https://imgur.com/a/vXSVrTK

UNCC_BRZ 04-18-2019 12:24 AM

Looks about right based on your damage

Sgaldi 04-18-2019 12:46 AM

Holy shit that’s almost half way to a new one ! If possible I’d say just buy another one haha

Tcoat 04-18-2019 06:59 AM

That is right in the ball park for paying somebody to do it. In fact $45 an hour is pretty reasonable.

Oh and dud you don't need to make a new thread for every question. The continuity of sticking to one thread helps people give more informed comments.

ZionsWrath 04-18-2019 08:36 AM

Price seems reasonable, particularly because your labor rate is so low.


I had a similar accident but not as bad ( no airbags )


https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...0&postcount=15
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The frame straightening and radiator support cut out is costing you a lot as well as the headlights are about 1k each.


For me I was lucky to fix my headlight with epoxy and it didn't leak.

Hammer out the rad support to barely fit the hood.
Air box was broken, bought a new OEM was like $175
Replaced hood latch but I think I didn't have to, needed to use washers to space it out to fit right
Kept damaged bumper and passenger fender because they were bent and fit. new parts won't fit with bent rad support




That's about it, drove for a year or so before I got rid of it.


I went to 3 shops before I decided to fix it myself with a hammer.


1st, went twice wouldn't even give estimate because I wasn't using insurance.


2nd, won't give estimate without full tear down and putting on frame machine said most likely 10,000+


3rd, gave me shit because I wasn't going through insurance. Said why do you want to spend 10k + out of pocket? Were you speeding? etc.

maslin 04-18-2019 09:43 AM

I’m all for fixing stuff yourself. But body work with a hammer results in a car that looks like you did body work with a hammer.

I’d pony up, pay the $13k and sell that car. It’s never going to be the same again, they rarely are. Or scrap it out and walk away. Probably the same value if you have the means to get it done.

ZionsWrath 04-18-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3209092)
I’m all for fixing stuff yourself. But body work with a hammer results in a car that looks like you did body work with a hammer.

I’d pony up, pay the $13k and sell that car. It’s never going to be the same again, they rarely are. Or scrap it out and walk away. Probably the same value if you have the means to get it done.


You are not wrong.


But my car was primarily for track and it obviously looked like I fixed it with a hammer.


But from the driver seat on the track it didn't make a difference for me as it drove fine.


I am just posting my experience for the peanut gallery, not everyone has the same goals with their "repairs".

evomike 04-18-2019 11:05 AM

looking at the torn down photos and the estimate i would be willing to bet they're gonna hit you with some additional charges before the job is over.


probably going to hit you with some actually pull time if they set it up and measure it and find any kind of sway or mash, the interior needs to come out to put a control module in it, there is going to be programming for the airbag controls. I would look at that number and not be surprised when they hit you with additional at midway point of the repair.

HaXx 04-18-2019 11:22 AM

Blegh, total it. Ur gonna be driving around a car you know was seriously bashed up which is going to make you sad, then eventually ur going to sell it to some poor bastard that's going to get a poor example of an 86. Do yourself and the 86 communitu a favor, total it if you can.

Dave-ROR 04-18-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209110)
looking at the torn down photos and the estimate i would be willing to bet they're gonna hit you with some additional charges before the job is over.


probably going to hit you with some actually pull time if they set it up and measure it and find any kind of sway or mash, the interior needs to come out to put a control module in it, there is going to be programming for the airbag controls. I would look at that number and not be surprised when they hit you with additional at midway point of the repair.

Only the center console pieces. Takes 5 minutes, maybe 15 if you haven't done a bunch of them.

Agree on the frame check but that's always going to be a possibility until they actually do it.

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3209119)
Blegh, total it. Ur gonna be driving around a car you know was seriously bashed up which is going to make you sad, then eventually ur going to sell it to some poor bastard that's going to get a poor example of an 86. Do yourself and the 86 communitu a favor, total it if you can.

Seriously? Fixed right it'll be perfectly fine. It didn't get wrapped around a telephone pole. It's not getting cut in half and welded back together. The vast majority of his damage are bolt on repairs except for the L and R core supports which are a total of 5 spot welds plus a few bolts per side. That's assuming it's straight on the frame machine, otherwise they might find more.

evomike 04-18-2019 12:02 PM

took another look and they don't have the steering wheel listed as a replacement item, in front airbag deployment the steering wheel must be replaced on these cars so they may hit you for that as well once fully taken apart.

Dave-ROR 04-18-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209135)
took another look and they don't have the steering wheel listed as a replacement item, in front airbag deployment the steering wheel must be replaced on these cars so they may hit you for that as well once fully taken apart.

By the book I assume? :)

We've never replaced them, just the bag and fixed the wiring but we aren't worried about our own cars liability..

evomike 04-18-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 3209136)
By the book I assume? :)

We've never replaced them, just the bag and fixed the wiring but we aren't worried about our own cars liability..

yeah per OEM procedure it says steering wheel and column as well, i am reading it more on a slow Thursday in the shop.

Dave-ROR 04-18-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209137)
yeah per OEM procedure it says steering wheel and column as well, i am reading it more on a slow Thursday in the shop.

Yeah the book has some crazy stuff. We had a badly repaired SRS control module throw a bunch of codes and cause CANBUS communication to fail and the book suggested all sorts of crazy crap that wasn't even related - it did end with "replace vehicle wiring harness" which at least is a nuclear option at the end.

Myairbags reset the module again and all was good in the world. I haven't seen any damaged wheels out of these yet, just the normal melted SRS plugs/wiring. Haven't even found one with a bad clockspring.

finch1750 04-18-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209137)
yeah per OEM procedure it says steering wheel and column as well, i am reading it more on a slow Thursday in the shop.

Interesting. Mine wasn't replaced back in July 2013 when my airbag went off. But there were barely instructions for the repair back then lol.

For OP, mine drives fine after a front and rear end collision and repair. Both over $10K in damages.

mitama 04-18-2019 02:40 PM

thanks for the replies guys. I might be fixing my car..

Lynxis 04-18-2019 03:52 PM

For 13 grand, you can buy a used but stock 13/14 with a few miles on it. I'd do that, then take the parts you want to keep from the PP like the wheels, brakes and suspension, and swap them between the cars. Then sell the wreck for a couple bucks to cover tax and registration, etc and end up with a car that is 9/10ths of the PP but it won't have been in a wreck so you can get more for it when it comes time to sell and move on. I regret that I'm basically married to my car now because I'll never be able to get what it's worth because it's been in an accident and fixed.

Jordanwolf 04-18-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynxis (Post 3209206)
For 13 grand, you can buy a used but stock 13/14 with a few miles on it. I'd do that, then take the parts you want to keep from the PP like the wheels, brakes and suspension, and swap them between the cars. Then sell the wreck for a couple bucks to cover tax and registration, etc and end up with a car that is 9/10ths of the PP but it won't have been in a wreck so you can get more for it when it comes time to sell and move on. I regret that I'm basically married to my car now because I'll never be able to get what it's worth because it's been in an accident and fixed.

I may have missed it, but what if the car isn't paid off? He'll then have two car loans assuming he doesn't have 13k just sitting around.

evomike 04-18-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3209241)
I may have missed it, but what if the car isn't paid off? He'll then have two car loans assuming he doesn't have 13k just sitting around.

Him not having collision coverage means it is paid off, or at least should be paid off he may have just canceled it and hoped to not get caught and that is why he is fixing the car.

mitama 04-18-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209243)
Him not having collision coverage means it is paid off, or at least should be paid off he may have just canceled it and hoped to not get caught and that is why he is fixing the car.

Actually not. I need to pay $10,000 more to pay off.

evomike 04-18-2019 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mitama (Post 3209306)
Actually not. I need to pay $10,000 more to pay off.

So you dropped collision coverage on a car you don’t own? That’s ummm interesting

j3rf 04-18-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mitama (Post 3209306)
Actually not. I need to pay $10,000 more to pay off.

Wow. Talk about terrible decisions... :iono:

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209325)
So you dropped collision coverage on a car you don’t own? That’s ummm interesting

I think the word you're looking for is illegal?

maslin 04-18-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by j3rf (Post 3209332)
Wow. Talk about terrible decisions... :iono:



I think the word you're looking for is illegal?


Illegal and against a contract aren't quite the same.

Maybe he "financed" through his parents? Maybe it's on a savings secured loan? Works at a dealership and the business carried the note? Lots of possibilities.

I bought a used car on my shops cash account. It was only $2000, not 20,000, but you never know.

And agreed, terrible decision.

NCtoBRZ 04-18-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3209325)
So you dropped collision coverage on a car you don’t own? That’s ummm interesting

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3rf (Post 3209332)
Wow. Talk about terrible decisions... :iono:



I think the word you're looking for is illegal?

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Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3209335)
Illegal and against a contract aren't quite the same.

Maybe he "financed" through his parents? Maybe it's on a savings secured loan? Works at a dealership and the business carried the note? Lots of possibilities.

I bought a used car on my shops cash account. It was only $2000, not 20,000, but you never know.

And agreed, terrible decision.

While I agree that the OP was foolish to not have full coverage insurance on this car... the comments above are why Tcoat mentioned earlier in this thread that the OP should have posted in his original thread. The discussion about the OP’s insurance situation was already discussed ad nauseam in the original thread.

Rabidpug 04-19-2019 10:41 AM

Man this is a hard call. Since you still have a loan on it. Will you be taking out an additional loan to fix it up? Or can the repairs be covered in full?

Brink 04-20-2019 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ (Post 3209384)
While I agree that the OP was foolish to not have full coverage insurance on this car... the comments above are why Tcoat mentioned earlier in this thread that the OP should have posted in his original thread. The discussion about the OP’s insurance situation was already discussed ad nauseam in the original thread.

Because the internet never discusses things ad nauseam multiple times?

soundman98 04-20-2019 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brink (Post 3209793)
Because the internet never discusses things ad nauseam multiple times?

It's been established here that once information is created, it becomes that-which-shall-not-be-named, but everyone is expected to know it.

EAGLE5 04-20-2019 03:16 AM

That looks reasonable. Hope that there isn't anything more that needs fixing. Looks like you have no choice.

NCtoBRZ 04-20-2019 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3209801)
It's been established here that once information is created, it becomes that-which-shall-not-be-named, but everyone is expected to know it.

It was “named” when Tcoat mentioned that the OP already had a thread going regarding his wrecked car... it isn’t some big mystery “that shall not be named” :slap:

Silvermk2 04-20-2019 12:23 PM

I'd question what kind of backwater shop you're taking this to with only a $45 labor rate in CA? Most of the ones up here are over a $100 an hour. If you want to save some money go on car-part.com and look for used parts. My recommendation find one that has some parts and call them and ask for a front cut and get it all at once.

maslin 04-20-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Silvermk2 (Post 3209839)
I'd question what kind of backwater shop you're taking this to with only a $45 labor rate in CA? Most of the ones up here are over a $100 an hour. If you want to save some money go on car-part.com and look for used parts. My recommendation find one that has some parts and call them and ask for a front cut and get it all at once.

Shop labor rate and body shop labor rate aren’t the same. $45 an hour is on the low side, but not unexpected.

Our automotive shop rate in a not huge town in Oregon is $160/hr, plenty of shops in California pushing (or over?) $200/hr.

We make a killing doing light body work, nothing that involves paint or real body work. Swap on a bumper and grill for 4 hours and you’re having a good morning.


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