Shut the front door....the Germans engineer the best stuff??? :bonk::bonk:

We're starting to pump out Additive machines...

Actually, it's the Dutch :bonk:

Well no, Penske are American.

You forgot Sachs.
Yes I have an indirect but still vested interest in making sure they were on the list.

They are a pain to work for though!

So are the Dutch. Possibly even cheaper than the Scots.

Can I make finger in the dyke jokes?

Yep.

:popcorn:









Everywhere outside of SoCal is the boonies.

You mean they OVER engineer the best stuff :bonk:

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I'm glad to see page 3 and 4, because page 1 of this thread was just sad. I'm an American, I'm in Texas (not in SoCal), and I have a combination of aftermarket components on my car that were manufactured, assembled, or sourced from all over the world. Nothing was "cheaped out" on, but in each case was chosen for function first, accessibility of support second, and price last (within reason). Some of the parts I purchased were manufactured in Taiwan, most were not, many of them were made right here in the US.

There are so many legitimately good coilover options in the market for this platform, that I truly don't understand why people buy bad coilovers or why they focus on the wrong things when making their purchase decisions. But it's your car and your money, so do whatever you want.

FWIW, not a single brand I assessed for coilovers was a "Japanese" brand. They were all from Europe, North America, and Australia. There's lots of components I'd want to buy from a Japanese brand for this platform, but not really coilovers. MCA in Australia; Ohlins, Bilstein, Motons, JRZ, and KW in Germany; and Penske, RCE, MCS, and Multimatic in North America are far superior options to almost anything I've seen come from Japan. Mid-Level Teins or Cusco coilovers are probably a great choice for a lot of people, but don't really enter the realm of serious suspension, and while Tein SRCs are actually quite good, for the money there are better options made elsewhere (at least better options for me and my driving goals).

Tk Rocket: don't get too upset, but you genuinely comes across as a seriously arrogant kid with little to no knowledge and experience. I'm a noob as well actually, but, damn, judging a brand and their product based on their geographic location is so asinine.



You truly are the definition of total JDM brainwashed fanboy.



Fortune Auto coilovers, in my opinion, offer some of the best support and product warranty in the business.



Their coilovers come with five-year warranty and at least you know their offices are local in North America (VA and Montreal, Canada) so you have some assurance of decent customer service.


I was looking into the Fortune Auto 510 coilovers and let me say it sounds like a pretty competitive option and the flexibility of this unit (swap out springs, send back for revalving, option to purchase with Swift springs, etc) seems unmatched. Their support and backing in terms of warranty and ease of reach is just a fantastic bonus.



Very sad and ignorant way of thinking you have, sir.



And finally, for it's worth, I would rather buy locally and support our local jobs rather than nut off to some far off, distant JDM fantasy.



510 Series:
https://www.fortune-auto.ca/fortune-...ies-explained/

It's even funnier if you've been to any of these USA headquarters. Many them are like 3 guys in a small commercial unit who mostly just do shipping/receiving.

Since he's from socal, here's some videos from Fitment Industries he might be able to actually understand.

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpaDLz9N2jY&t=189s"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpaDLz9N2jY&t=189s[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQZVNNXvC0s"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQZVNNXvC0s[/ame]

Watch these and then you will understand why people buy Fortune Auto.

What company is this?

I tried to watch them. I really did. Just couldn't get over them annoying me all to hell.

How many of these have you ever driven on? And to what extent?

Either you're ignorant, or this post is some of that great marketing and you did this just for people to come defend them lol.

I think that's why they're so effective for people in SoCal.

I suppose. That first guy really needs to take his medicat...


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For those that don't know of him:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123147


I really like what he has done with his car but there is certainly a different mindset involved.

I came here to say some things, then @Tcoat said pretty much all of them. :lol: On point as always, sir. Especially the bit about German engineers being difficult to work with, though in my case it was more German businessfolks/practices. That's one of the things I don't miss about the old job. haha

One thing I will add, in reference to FA more specifically. And I will first make the disclaimer that I'm far from even moderately equipped to assess a damper's quality. Fortune Auto seems to have done an excellent job of marketing, as others have pointed out, and getting brand ambassadors out there repping them in various communities. Around here they are huge in the Subaru community, I think largely due to one well loved rep in the local community being a big fan of them. But I also see that they are doing a lot to support the track community in a big way, with contingency programs and event/series sponsorship. This goes a LONG way, especially when you aren't seeing a lot of the other suspension companies out there. Also, having localized support is a big deal too. It's on the reasons Reinharte suspension will be on my radar when I eventually get coilovers... again. lol

I have the joy of not only working with the German engineers but also the businessfolks/practices.

I dealt with the engineers on occasion, but definitely not as much as the business folks. Now I'm in tech, which has its own challenges/difficult people. But at least half the people I have to work with don't all simultaneously go on vacation for an entire month. haha

They lost me at the company name....I went no further.

I am in awe. The phrase "If you're going to do something weird, do it well" applies here. I expected to hate it, but while I don't want one I can't help but appreciate it. Why not have fun with your daily commuter?

Now if only there was that much part support for the BMW i3 or Chevy Bolt. I love the idea of an electric commuter (and of course a dinosaur burning toy for the weekend), but the reasonably priced ones are so... spongey and tall and eggshaped. Counting down the years until we get a cool eV mod scene... I just hope everyone dresses like bladerunner.

One of their engineers came on the forum a while back and was very upfront about their product, what's there for marketing (ie 30 way adjustable), etc. It was very cool to see and things like that have helped their rep a lot imo.

You can't convince me fortune cookie auto is a good brand. I'm too brain washed. I been modifying cars since 2002. My s14 was mostly made up of Japanese parts. I've been applying the same method for 20 years


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Fitment industry is a bunch of BFE boys from Wisconsin

Wait a second. Egypt or Wisconsin? Either way, they don't have towns, or power, or internet there. And they certainly can't build coilovers.

And I have been in the auto parts manufacturing industry since 1993. Take my word for it. Many of those Japanese parts you have used are no more "Japanese" than if they came from California.

Oh and your math sucks!

I'm so thankful I stumbled across this thread :lol:

I never heard of fortune auto until a few months ago. And then, they came off as not really knowing how to build camber plates...

https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...0132#post14601

Last I checked tomei, arc, hks, Apexi etc are Japanese companies and made in japan...

Subtle likes red neck coilovers post

The market has really changed a lot over the years. trying to stay with all quality Japanese parts used to be a thing but instead of pride in the car all people care about is price

Assembled in Japan. God only knows where the components are made. You need to know the difference between made and assembled.

Listen dude. You came with your Prius expecting a fight. You didn't get one and seemed like a decent guy. Now you want to insult everybody that disagrees with your little fantasy world? It will not go well for you.

He clearly needs to understand this.

I’m very concerned regarding the specific sourcing location of my carbon atoms. If those carbon atoms are not sourced from the southern tip of Honshu, they are not JDM in my book.

Well he doesn't understand that JDM means made and sold in Japan for use there. Unless of course he has an imported RHD Prius than 99% of his car is USEM anyway no matter how many Japanese owned companies he bought parts from.

I'm not sure where you are getting an information when a product says Made in Japan that you're implying that it means assembled in Japan