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conehead 03-05-2019 05:41 PM
Hawk brake pads
 
I've tried HPS, HP+, and 5.0 pads in the past on my autox/HPDE car that is also a sometimes DD and didn't really like them, although I have heard that the new HP+ pads are much better than the old ones.



Are there any pads that Hawk makes that are really the best in any category? It could be dedicated track pads, ceramic daily driver pads, etc? I occasionally get small contingencies from them and appreciate their support.

CounterSpace Garage 03-05-2019 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by conehead (Post 3192506)
I've tried HPS, HP+, and 5.0 pads in the past on my autox/HPDE car that is also a sometimes DD and didn't really like them, although I have heard that the new HP+ pads are much better than the old ones.



Are there any pads that Hawk makes that are really the best in any category? It could dedicated track pads, ceramic daily driver pads, etc? I occasionally get small contingencies from them and appreciate their support.
Are you stuck on Hawk for the contingency?

conehead 03-05-2019 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage (Post 3192534)
Are you stuck on Hawk for the contingency?

Its Hawk or nothing. You actually don't even need to run Hawk pads to get the contingency. I was asking more about where to spend it. I have a truck as well.

EAGLE5 03-05-2019 09:59 PM
I think the DTC-60 is just fine on the track. Functions fine on the street too.

Tristor 03-06-2019 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by conehead (Post 3192605)
Its Hawk or nothing. You actually don't even need to run Hawk pads to get the contingency. I was asking more about where to spend it. I have a truck as well.
Personally, I have not had good experiences with Hawk pads on other vehicles, and I've avoided them for this vehicle. My main issue has been on almost every compound their dust is corrosive and sticks badly when wetted, meaning that it's very difficult to remove and often will pit the wheel barrels.

I understand you have a contingency, but you can always choose to not spend that contingency and go buy brake pads you'll actually like.

Also how did this go into the Oil/Fluid subforum instead of the Brake subforum?

CounterSpace Garage 03-06-2019 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by conehead (Post 3192605)
Its Hawk or nothing. You actually don't even need to run Hawk pads to get the contingency. I was asking more about where to spend it. I have a truck as well.
Depends on the actual application of what you need.

FirstWinter 03-06-2019 07:28 PM
  1. Use contingency to get Hawk pads.
  2. Sell the Hawk pads.
  3. Buy better pads.

FR-Sky 03-06-2019 07:41 PM
I track and DD, the hawk hp+ is actually pretty good to me.

FirstWinter 03-06-2019 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 3192940)
I track and DD, the hawk hp+ is actually pretty good to me.
I would strongly advise against using Hawk HP+ for anybody taking their car to the track. Sure, it's possible they might hold up on the track for some people in some situations but as most progress and even some out the gate Hawk HP+ are not sufficient for track use. I'm not just hating on Hawk although I'm not a fan of them. Run one of Hawk's track pads if you want to use Hawk ie: DTC-60 but don't use HP+ FFS.

Teseo 03-06-2019 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 3192940)
I track and DD, the hawk hp+ is actually pretty good to me.
Noise wise comcern?
How is the brake dust?

conehead 03-07-2019 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tristor (Post 3192705)
Personally, I have not had good experiences with Hawk pads on other vehicles, and I've avoided them for this vehicle. My main issue has been on almost every compound their dust is corrosive and sticks badly when wetted, meaning that it's very difficult to remove and often will pit the wheel barrels.

I understand you have a contingency, but you can always choose to not spend that contingency and go buy brake pads you'll actually like.

Also how did this go into the Oil/Fluid subforum instead of the Brake subforum?

I'd prefer to find a use for the free money. Maybe their ceramic street pads don't cause the problems you described, for example. I'm sure they make good pads for some application that I can use.



I put this in the maintenance subforum. Mods, feel free to move it.

FR-Sky 03-07-2019 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 3193019)
Noise wise comcern?
How is the brake dust?
The noise is alright, acceptable. It has a lot of brake dust, i have to clean my wheel every 2-3 weeks.

FR-Sky 03-07-2019 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstWinter (Post 3192982)
I would strongly advise against using Hawk HP+ for anybody taking their car to the track. Sure, it's possible they might hold up on the track for some people in some situations but as most progress and even some out the gate Hawk HP+ are not sufficient for track use. I'm not just hating on Hawk although I'm not a fan of them. Run one of Hawk's track pads if you want to use Hawk ie: DTC-60 but don't use HP+ FFS.
well..too bad...I bought them just half years ago and still have plenty left, I guess I will be stuck with them for at least 2-3 more tracks...
But it holds pretty well tho, I like the initial bite when I brake hard before into the corner, I felt like my whole body is being throw out.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/hawk...l#.XIF5yihKjIU

CounterSpace Garage 03-11-2019 09:24 PM
It is an imposing feeling when stomping on your brake pedal with your first set of performance brake pads. Ultimately, managing your tire grip and loading them up accordingly provides maximum braking potential. :thumbup:


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