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MaximS 03-03-2019 11:40 AM

Speeding ticket in Quebec?
 
Alright I've tried finding the answer for this question everywhere but with no luck. I got a ticket about 11-12 months ago in Quebec going to Montreal at 130kmh on the highway. I pleaded not guilty (just to delay the insurance premium) and lo and behold got convicted December with a payment date in March. No big deal I thought, 2 demerits... except I just got a letter saying it's 4 demerits? I know demerits carry over between provinces but I'm being penalized as if I committed the offense in Ontario not Quebec. Like they took the 30 over and applied Ontario HTA penalties instead of carrying over the Quebec penalties. Is this how it's supposed to work? I'm gonna stop by a service ontario tomorrow just in case but dang.

Tcoat 03-03-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximS (Post 3191671)
Alright I've tried finding the answer for this question everywhere but with no luck. I got a ticket about 11-12 months ago in Quebec going to Montreal at 130kmh on the highway. I pleaded not guilty (just to delay the insurance premium) and lo and behold got convicted December with a payment date in March. No big deal I thought, 2 demerits... except I just got a letter saying it's 4 demerits? I know demerits carry over between provinces but I'm being penalized as if I committed the offense in Ontario not Quebec. Like they took the 30 over and applied Ontario HTA penalties instead of carrying over the Quebec penalties. Is this how it's supposed to work? I'm gonna stop by a service ontario tomorrow just in case but dang.

The Provinces (and some states) have an agreement that offences committed there result in the penalty of the province of registration (or state).


How demerit points work
You don’t “lose” demerit points on your driving record. You start with zero points and gain points for being convicted of breaking certain traffic laws.

Demerit points stay on your record for two years from the offence date. If you collect enough points, you can lose your driver’s licence.

You can also get demerit points on your Ontario’s driver’s licence when you violate driving laws in:

other Canadian provinces and territories
the State of New York
the State of Michigan

Sooooo, you get the Ontario demerits for the ticket issued in any province, New York or Michigan.

MaximS 03-03-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3191684)
The Provinces (and some states) have an agreement that offences committed there result in the penalty of the province of registration (or state).


How demerit points work
You don’t “lose” demerit points on your driving record. You start with zero points and gain points for being convicted of breaking certain traffic laws.

Demerit points stay on your record for two years from the offence date. If you collect enough points, you can lose your driver’s licence.

You can also get demerit points on your Ontario’s driver’s licence when you violate driving laws in:

other Canadian provinces and territories
the State of New York
the State of Michigan

Sooooo, you get the Ontario demerits for the ticket issued in any province, New York or Michigan.

Ah dang... yeah I'm familiar with how they work but it was the bolded part I didn't know about. He could've knocked it down to 129 :/ fuggen SQ lol

Tcoat 03-03-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximS (Post 3191692)
Ah dang... yeah I'm familiar with how they work but it was the bolded part I didn't know about. He could've knocked it down to 129 :/ fuggen SQ lol

Or you could have...Oh, I don't know... Maybe driven slower? Especially going through PQ with Ontario plates?

MaximS 03-03-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3191694)
Or you could have...Oh, I don't know... Maybe driven slower? Especially going through PQ with Ontario plates?

Good tip pops

Tokay444 03-03-2019 05:57 PM

Demerits don’t actually matter in any way, until you have too many, and they revoke your license.
Your insurance only cares about the number of convictions, even if they are zero points each, and if any of them are “Major” infractions.

Tcoat 03-04-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3191753)
Demerits don’t actually matter in any way, until you have too many, and they revoke your license.
Your insurance only cares about the number of convictions, even if they are zero points each, and if any of them are “Major” infractions.

Oh I have little doubt that ol' Max will max out his demerits.

MaximS 03-04-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3192065)
Oh I have little doubt that ol' Max will max out his demerits.

I wouldn't doubt it either, that guy's out of control.

Tcoat 03-04-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximS (Post 3192135)
I wouldn't doubt it either, that guy's out of control.

Well at least he seems to have stopped smashing up his car. For now.

MaximS 03-04-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3192177)
Well at least he seems to have stopped smashing up his car. For now.

It was a real a ha moment when I realized I could've leased a Porsche 911 Turbo for a year and it would've cost less than how much I've spent on this car between tickets/paralegals and repairs.

Tcoat 03-05-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MaximS (Post 3192200)
It was a real a ha moment when I realized I could've leased a Porsche 911 Turbo for a year and it would've cost less than how much I've spent on this car between tickets/paralegals and repairs.

You'd be dead.

pushrod 03-05-2019 08:58 AM

Last word.

misterfly 03-07-2019 05:42 PM

im live in Quebec, when you come here dont go up than 120 , because it's only one demerit point and Sq dont go out for that,

MaximS 03-07-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by misterfly (Post 3193293)
im live in Quebec, when you come here dont go up than 120 , because it's only one demerit point and Sq dont go out for that,

yeah I know I know I honestly wasn't even consciously thinking about it I'm just used to Toronto cruising speeds but lesson learned... It was a sunday I was just cruising it was in the part before Montreal where it's all just fields. I've done some dumb shit with this car but that was just me being inattentive and somewhat unlucky :/


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