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Teseo 02-28-2019 05:49 PM

If the dealership dont fuck up my engine with the spring valve recall, i will keep mine as much i can. If not, probably i will go with camaro ss, mustang gt, 370z or focus st

bcj 02-28-2019 06:42 PM

Both of those bikes are going for bank these days.

Dadhawk 02-28-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by qcbaker (Post 3190779)
I too desire to know what humfrz's motorcycle is...

Add me to the list...

Grady 02-28-2019 07:17 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1551389280

Red Trail 50 is the first motorocycle I ever had. Had a blast on it even when I upgraded to a Yamahas gt80, and then the YZ250. Wish I still had it!

Packofcrows 02-28-2019 07:34 PM

Passing on my FRS to lil sister in 2 years. Looking to buy the Supra as soon as they release a 6spd manual. If not wrx.

I love Supra. Ugly face though.

86geek 02-28-2019 07:40 PM

I had a '91 civic h/b for 17 years then a scion xa for 9 years then bought the FRS.
I will run the FRS to the ground before I buy another new car. Told myself this is the last car I'd buy. But if I ever have to buy another car it'll be 2nd hand Lexus sedan.

Tcoat 02-28-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 3190817)
Passing on my FRS to lil sister in 2 years. Looking to buy the Supra as soon as they release a 6spd manual. If not wrx.

I love Supra. Ugly face though.

You will enjoy the WRX.

8RZ 02-28-2019 07:47 PM

I doubt they'll produce it in a 6-sp, that's the only reason my mom didn't buy the new Z4, they dropped the manual trans model and bigger engine.

Spuds 02-28-2019 08:33 PM

If a second generation came out, I'd go test drive it at the very least, and consider upgrading (if it we're actually an upgrade) Keeping mine as long as possible otherwise. I have other cars for functional purposes so no need to get rid of the toy.

MrDinkleman 02-28-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3190570)
4 - If the boxer disappears the car disappear it is as simple as that. There will never be a Toyota or Subaru solo version

In a way, this would be good for me. I hate selling/trading-in cars so I just keep adding new cars (I have 5 now. I would have 6 but one was totalled). OTOH it doesn't make sense having two identical cars whose only difference is the engine. So it would put me in a MAJOR quandary if Toyota took over 86 production and put one of their I4 engines in the 86, something I wished they had done from the beginning, even (especially?) if it had been their "outdated" 3SGE (they could have updated it and make it a 4SGE)...

But then again, if Toyota comes out with a true second generation, after seeing the folly of their BMW co-production ways, with a newer, better chassis on top of a new Toyota drivetrain (with 3-pedal 6M/T, of course), then sign me up!

DarkPira7e 02-28-2019 09:22 PM

I think just like the e36, I'll end up buying the highest mileage early production models I can find every time one of my cars rusts out. I wish a Scion trim came with heated seats...

humfrz 02-28-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bkharmony (Post 3190772)
Alright, as a vintage motorcycle guy, my interest is sufficiently piqued. What is it, Humfrz???

Well, the one pictured in the above post is NOT it - :D

It's not really vintage, it's just old.

It happens to be more of a motorbike.

1970 Honda CT90 (Trail 90).

Bullet proof bike. It survived me, my two sons and my daughter. - :)

I paid $325 for it brand new in 1970.

One like it - the real one, is buried behind Lord knows what in the basement.


humfrz

Tcoat 02-28-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDinkleman (Post 3190845)
In a way, this would be good for me. I hate selling/trading-in cars so I just keep adding new cars (I have 5 now. I would have 6 but one was totalled). OTOH it doesn't make sense having two identical cars whose only difference is the engine. So it would put me in a MAJOR quandary if Toyota took over 86 production and put one of their I4 engines in the 86, something I wished they had done from the beginning, even (especially?) if it had been their "outdated" 2SGE (they could have updated it and make it a 3SGE)...

But then again, if Toyota comes out with a true second generation, after seeing the folly of their BMW co-production ways, with a newer, better chassis on top of a new Toyota drivetrain (with 3-pedal 6M/T, of course), then sign me up!

If they come out with a newer, better chassis with a Toyota drive train it will not be a next generation it would be a whole different car.
Nobody has any idea if the BMW venture was a "folly" yet. The things may fly off the shelf.
They will not be making their own low run sports cars ever again. Those days are gone I am afraid.

extrashaky 02-28-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by evoto86 (Post 3190561)
Will you stay with the 86 brand for the future ?

How can anybody actually answer that without even knowing the specs of this hypothetical car, what it would look like or how much it would cost, much less actually driving it?

This is a silly question.

MuseChaser 02-28-2019 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Takumi788 (Post 3190590)
I plan on hording them! I will be looking into buying another one for the street soon. AKA track car parts car. lol.


PM me if you're serious. I live just east of SYR. I love my FR-S and hadn't really thought of selling it, but I have too many cars and could be persuaded.

soundman98 02-28-2019 11:25 PM

i'm not interested in a new model. i'm not even interested in the '17 refresh. the mandatory reverse camera's in all newer cars means they all need screens, and screens suck. i also don't like the steering wheel controls.

my brz was totaled once, and i bought another while the ink was still wet on the insurance check. and i'd do it again if i had to.

this car is the newest-oldest car i've had an interest in. except for certain things, it's a very analog car in the way it handles, something that is becoming increasingly difficult to find in newer vehicles.

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 3190872)
PM me if you're serious. I live just east of SYR. I love my FR-S and hadn't really thought of selling it, but I have too many cars and could be persuaded.

i've got $10 and a kitkat bar...

jrb363 02-28-2019 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3190880)
i'm not interested in a new model. i'm not even interested in the '17 refresh. the mandatory reverse camera's in all newer cars means they all need screens, and screens suck. i also don't like the steering wheel controls.



my brz was totaled once, and i bought another while the ink was still wet on the insurance check. and i'd do it again if i had to.



this car is the newest-oldest car i've had an interest in. except for certain things, it's a very analog car in the way it handles, something that is becoming increasingly difficult to find in newer vehicles.







i've got $10 and a kitkat bar...

You and I would get along very well. I'm not super old school but I do generally loathe modern nanny tech in all instances. The one exception is BSM simply due to the awful vision allotted to the left-rear of the driver.

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soundman98 02-28-2019 11:40 PM

i call myself a millennial boomer.

now get off my lawn before i get out the roman candles again!

Atmo 03-01-2019 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3190730)
About the same here. I think we would just become a one car family. Besides, the family sedan, with the 6 way, power adjustable, heated seats and automatic transmission is "feeling" a lot more comfortable, as I get older - :)

humfrz

I have the same problem. I hate to admit it but my wife's new Camry XLE Hybrid is ridiculously good for what it is. 8-way power heated and ventilated seats, more tech than I'll ever understand (two separate owner's manuals and the several hundred page multimedia manual is thicker than the other one), adaptive LED headlights that you have to see to believe, 46 mpg overall on regular, quicker than the standard 4-banger Camry due to the instant DC torque and the hybrid is only an $800 option that will break even compared to the ICE Camry after 18 months @ $2.50/gal gas.

I'm on the fence about another 86, much improved from my '13 FR-S in M/T form but after driving a TRD 86 wonder if the trade offs are worth it. The TRD is like an aging supermodel who gets artificially enhanced. Looks good on the outside, a little tired on the inside despite the big...rims. The one thing that could sway me is if they offer massive incentives like Toyota always does during generational changes.

The previous Avalon got $3K factory cash back plus dealer discounts last year setting a new precedent that might carry on should a new gen 86 appear.

Still looking but even after all this time consider 86 a serious contender for smiles per mile. I don't see much else new under $30K that can touch it and think the styling will remain timeless. Who knows, if there is a 2nd Gen and it follows Zupra development (overweight, underpowered, overpriced), the 1st Gen could regain it's luster.

Then again, I'm a myopic Toyota fanboi who admits to being distracted by the Civic Si Coupe.

Impureclient 03-01-2019 01:57 AM

Probably will run mine into the ground. I keep cars a while and still have my last car going 20 years and now my son drives it.
No reason to buy anything new with only putting 3500 miles a year, it will be pretty decent shape in another 20.
Unless they came with a good 100hp more(won't happen) and redo the new front end, I'm staying put in the current one.

86MLR 03-01-2019 02:06 AM

I'm a tragic RWD manual boy, I'm only 54 but I never want to feel that old that my love of being a hoon is comprised.

Hell, I'll strip out weight, throw on loud exhausts, stiffen up the chassis and suspension and the drive it 1000km for a club meet.

I'll save the comfy cars for the missus to drive the kids and grandparents around in, (or me if I've been drinking, LOL)

The time I give up my little manual RWD is when it's due to safety, I'm to old, blind and stupid.

Even then, I'll have one in the garage for when the kids or grandkids come over.

I'll jump in the passenger seat saying to one of them, "don't fuck around, lets go do some skids".

Takumi788 03-01-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jrb363 (Post 3190884)
You and I would get along very well. I'm not super old school but I do generally loathe modern nanny tech in all instances. The one exception is BSM simply due to the awful vision allotted to the left-rear of the driver.

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3190880)
i'm not interested in a new model. i'm not even interested in the '17 refresh. the mandatory reverse camera's in all newer cars means they all need screens, and screens suck. i also don't like the steering wheel controls.

my brz was totaled once, and i bought another while the ink was still wet on the insurance check. and i'd do it again if i had to.

this car is the newest-oldest car i've had an interest in. except for certain things, it's a very analog car in the way it handles, something that is becoming increasingly difficult to find in newer vehicles.

My thoughts exactly. With the way tech is taking over cars I will happily stick to the ZN6 chassis for a track car.

Summerwolf 03-01-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3190681)
Oh, poooo - :D

Reminds me of my father, his last three vehicles were the "last ones I'll ever buy". At age 94 he pulled away from a gas pump without taking the nozzle out of the filler tube. The next day, my sister "borrowed" his car - and never returned it - :eyebulge:

The rest of the story is - that he then drove his golf cart into town - and got a ticket - :iono:


humfrz

I'll add more for sure. I just have one car I really regret selling. Havent been able to track it down... dont want to do it again. I figure I'll tuck this one away in a corner of the barn and just start putting the newer ones there too when they're replaced.

That way I'll just regret letting them waste away instead. Lol.

bkharmony 03-01-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Takumi788 (Post 3190961)
With the way tech is taking over cars I will happily stick to the ZN6 chassis for a track car.

Yet another reason I love my 86. It's about the least techy car you can buy today, and I like it that way. I pray the next gen does not have automatic braking (but I fear it will).

humfrz 03-01-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3191072)
I'll add more for sure. I just have one car I really regret selling. Havent been able to track it down... dont want to do it again. I figure I'll tuck this one away in a corner of the barn and just start putting the newer ones there too when they're replaced.

That way I'll just regret letting them waste away instead. Lol.

Reminds me of my old MGB-GT that I drove for 10 years in CA, 7 years in CT, and put it in storage for 7 years in MO. When I went to take it out of storage, I tried to jack it up (jack point was in the center) and the car broke in half - :confused0068:

Yep, the frame had rusted away from the CT salt.

:sigh:


humfrz

Tcoat 03-01-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3191079)
Reminds me of my old MGB-GT that I drove for 10 years in CA, 7 years in CT, and put it in storage for 7 years in MO. When I went to take it out of storage, I tried to jack it up (jack point was in the center) and the car broke in half - :confused0068:

Yep, the frame had rusted away from the CT salt.

:sigh:


humfrz


That was the same fate my Impala SS suffered. Was still in pretty good shape when I put it in storage (I was going to keep it for ever and ever) but when I pulled it out 5 years later to start driving it again it was toast.

extrashaky 03-01-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3191079)
Reminds me of my old MGB-GT that I drove for 10 years in CA, 7 years in CT, and put it in storage for 7 years in MO. When I went to take it out of storage, I tried to jack it up (jack point was in the center) and the car broke in half - :confused0068:

Yep, the frame had rusted away from the CT salt.

Here's where I jog your memory by reminding you that the MGB was a unibody car. That was one of the religious arguments between MG guys and Triumph guys.

mav1178 03-01-2019 01:42 PM

my next car will be a Volvo V60, taking European Delivery of one next year.

humfrz 03-01-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3191082)
That was the same fate my Impala SS suffered. Was still in pretty good shape when I put it in storage (I was going to keep it for ever and ever) but when I pulled it out 5 years later to start driving it again it was toast.

Yep, funny how that can change.

1948 Chev - stored on my parents farm - parents sold farm - gave car to my cousin ( I had for 15 years).

1970 MGB - rusted in half while in storage ( I had for 24 years).

1956 Ford step-side pickup truck - relocated from MO to WA - new company wouldn't pay for moving it - sold to a friend - had the truck for 19 years.

I get a kick out of some folks that say they are going to keep a car "forever" :iono:


humfrz

humfrz 03-01-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3191087)
Here's where I jog your memory by reminding you that the MGB was a unibody car. That was one of the religious arguments between MG guys and Triumph guys.

Valid point. Well, whatever rusted away, when I went to jack it up from the center, the center of the car went up about a foot and the front and rear wheels were still on the ground - :confused0068:


:iono:


humfrz

yurikaze 03-01-2019 02:00 PM

I'll probably daily my tS for another two years, then retire it to weekend/track use. I want something comfy, fast, and low-key for my next daily, so probably a new M3, Porsche, RS5, AMG, or most likely a lowered All-road, since I really want a wagon. Ideally an RS4 Avant would be my pick but we don't get them in the US. My wife picked up a new Q5 a couple months ago, and every time I ride in it, I'm reminded how nice it is compared to my tS.
I must be getting old, because after dailying a car with a big GT-wing, I want to fly under the radar in comfort.
That being said, I bought the tS with the intention of keeping it forever, and that is still my plan.

Summerwolf 03-01-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3191094)
Yep, funny how that can change.

1948 Chev - stored on my parents farm - parents sold farm - gave car to my cousin ( I had for 15 years).

1970 MGB - rusted in half while in storage ( I had for 24 years).

1956 Ford step-side pickup truck - relocated from MO to WA - new company wouldn't pay for moving it - sold to a friend - had the truck for 19 years.

I get a kick out of some folks that say they are going to keep a car "forever" :iono:


humfrz

Things can always change in a heartbeat!

mav1178 03-01-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by yurikaze (Post 3191104)
since I really want a wagon.

Volvo European Delivery includes a pair of RT tickets to Sweden as part of the purchase price. FYR.

yurikaze 03-01-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3191107)
Volvo European Delivery includes a pair of RT tickets to Sweden as part of the purchase price. FYR.

Yeah, I've definitely been eyeing both the V60 and V90 wagons in non Cross-country guise. They're both fantastic looking cars.

Tcoat 03-01-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3191087)
Here's where I jog your memory by reminding you that the MGB was a unibody car. That was one of the religious arguments between MG guys and Triumph guys.

I (and many others) often refer to the structural components of unibody cars as the "frame". Technically not correct terminology but the function is the same.

Tcoat 03-01-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yurikaze (Post 3191104)
I'll probably daily my tS for another two years, then retire it to weekend/track use. I want something comfy, fast, and low-key for my next daily, so probably a new M3, Porsche, RS5, AMG, or most likely a lowered All-road, since I really want a wagon. Ideally an RS4 Avant would be my pick but we don't get them in the US. My wife picked up a new Q5 a couple months ago, and every time I ride in it, I'm reminded how nice it is compared to my tS.
I must be getting old, because after dailying a car with a big GT-wing, I want to fly under the radar in comfort.
That being said, I bought the tS with the intention of keeping it forever, and that is still my plan.

Your idea of "low key" is way off mine.

extrashaky 03-01-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3191117)
I (and many others) often refer to the structural components of unibody cars as the "frame". Technically not correct terminology but the function is the same.

Okay. But like I said, it was a religious argument. We were agnostic, but we had both brands in the family, so we were still keenly aware of the proselytizing.

humfrz 03-01-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3191127)
Okay. But like I said, it was a religious argument. We were agnostic, but we had both brands in the family, so we were still keenly aware of the proselytizing.

Yep, same here. My younger brother had a TR, which was faster than my MG, but not as fast as my Miata - :D


humfrz

extrashaky 03-01-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3191137)
Yep, same here. My younger brother had a TR, which was faster than my MG, but not as fast as my Miata - :D

They detuned the stock TR6 for the US market and crippled it. We never dynoed mine, but it was built out so that it should have been putting out at least 180 HP. I'm ashamed to say I used to race Fox body 5.0L Mustangs from red light to red light on the Parkway, but that was hilarious because I would outrun a stock one every time. It would bark the tires going into third gear.

My dad's MGB couldn't touch it on a straight road, but he would have outrun me any day on a curvy one. It outclassed the TR6 in handling even after I rebuilt the entire suspension with poly bushings. The TR guys thought the MGB was slow. The MGB guys thought the TR was sloppy.

yurikaze 03-01-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3191121)
Your idea of "low key" is way off mine.

Low key for Los Angeles. This is where people buy a 911 in a neutral color if they don't want to stand out.


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