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ka-t_240 02-01-2019 01:12 PM

MCA Traction Mod
 
Who has the MCA Tractoin Mod? Do you think it help and how/where on track? Would you buy again or is it just a "meh" improvement.

Sleepless 02-04-2019 08:16 PM

I have it and it works as described and recommend it. Better traction coming out of corners.

Code Monkey 02-04-2019 08:27 PM

^ +1

14stu 02-04-2019 08:47 PM

Just make sure to check the classing rules for whatever groups you compete with (this part ruins SCCA classing for autox and puts you into the Prepared or Modified classes).

ka-t_240 02-05-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 14stu (Post 3182047)
Just make sure to check the classing rules for whatever groups you compete with (this part ruins SCCA classing for autox and puts you into the Prepared or Modified classes).

E85 is life, so my STX car is already not STX ahaha.

#foreversaltythatpumpgasisnotpumpgas

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 02-05-2019 11:19 AM

"reduce anti-squat". So if I installed the whiteline rear subframe bushings to reduce squat, this is going to induce it all over again?

Racecomp Engineering 02-05-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3182240)
"reduce anti-squat". So if I installed the whiteline rear subframe bushings to reduce squat, this is going to induce it all over again?

Anti-squat relates to suspension geometry, the WL rear subframe bushings reduce bushing play/squishiness. So they're affecting different things.

- Andrew

ka-titties 02-05-2019 03:15 PM

I also have the MCA part installed on my BRZ and I can say it appears to improve corner exit traction quite a bit. I do not have any supporting data though.

86MLR 02-05-2019 05:16 PM

I have it, good mod.

Clutch Dog 02-28-2019 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 3182227)
E85 is life, so my STX car is already not STX ahaha.

#foreversaltythatpumpgasisnotpumpgas

Heaven forbid you attach an oil cooler to the car. instant street prepared

#reliabilitymodsmakeyoufaster

ka-t_240 02-28-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3190529)
Heaven forbid you attach an oil cooler to the car. instant street prepared

#reliabilitymodsmakeyoufaster

Oil Coolers are allowed in STX, the got added recently.

SCCA also is now allowing regions to make the call on aesthetic mods in street touring at local events(non national/pro solo type). For instance vents, lips, side skirts, wings etc can be allowed at regions discretion.


My region has lots of cars show up that are in prepared classes for worthless mods that bring them to *SP or *P classes, especially when they show up on blow suspension and 400tw tires. It isn't good for the sport as people who know nothing about autox that want to try get scared due to the class they get put in.

Tristor 02-28-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 3190616)
Oil Coolers are allowed in STX, the got added recently.

SCCA also is now allowing regions to make the call on aesthetic mods in street touring at local events(non national/pro solo type). For instance vents, lips, side skirts, wings etc can be allowed at regions discretion.


My region has lots of cars show up that are in prepared classes for worthless mods that bring them to *SP or *P classes, especially when they show up on blow suspension and 400tw tires. It isn't good for the sport as people who know nothing about autox that want to try get scared due to the class they get put in.


It's not even that people get "scared", it's just that it's not fun to go as a newbie and compete against somebody who's previously won a national title, just because you took the backseat out of your car and replaced it with $40 in chloroplast from Home Depot. Sure, it cut ~30 pounds off the car, but it's not going to make a newbie into Randy Pobst, so why be so anal about it? That's basically what happened to me, I went to one AutoX event and realized I'd spent all day to get a total of ~10 minutes driving, while classed against people who'd been doing AutoX for years or decades. I got put directly into Modified thanks to removing my back seat and also since my oil cooler is built into the radiator (Jackson Racing Dual Rad). My car was on stock suspension, stock alignment, stock power, on 300tw tires, but yep, I'm in Modified.

ka-t_240 02-28-2019 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristor (Post 3190623)
It's not even that people get "scared", it's just that it's not fun to go as a newbie and compete against somebody who's previously won a national title, just because you took the backseat out of your car and replaced it with $40 in chloroplast from Home Depot. Sure, it cut ~30 pounds off the car, but it's not going to make a newbie into Randy Pobst, so why be so anal about it? That's basically what happened to me, I went to one AutoX event and realized I'd spent all day to get a total of ~10 minutes driving, while classed against people who'd been doing AutoX for years or decades. I got put directly into Modified thanks to removing my back seat and also since my oil cooler is built into the radiator (Jackson Racing Dual Rad). My car was on stock suspension, stock alignment, stock power, on 300tw tires, but yep, I'm in Modified.

I guess, radiators are not an allowed ST mod, so I can see they bumping for that. I personally would have just put you in STX since thats where the car belongs.

Shneegle 02-28-2019 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 3190640)
I guess, radiators are not an allowed ST mod, so I can see they bumping for that. I personally would have just put you in STX since thats where the car belongs.

I have been in the SCCA for 10+ years, been the RE/President/etc. I spent a lot of time moving our region from a region stuck in the 90s to 2010+, and we still have a long ways to go, but we now have 10 events a year with 40ish people. Average 8-9 runs, and then a hour of fun runs and are cleaned up by 5pm.

Radiators were allowed in ST beginning of 2017, the current rules also would allow the dual radiator as long as it wasn't installed to make room for a intake...


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