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If you have documentation that the '13 OEM springs have already been changed out, you should be able to provide that as evidence for CA CARB purposes.

You kept the receipts, right?

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Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3178153)

If you have documentation that the '13 OEM springs have already been changed out, you should be able to provide that as evidence for CA CARB purposes.

You kept the receipts, right?

Nothing is that easy in California. will need proper form I'm sure.

Hey guys, I've got the Edelbrock supercharger on my 2013 FRS. I took it into one dealership that after downloading the Edelbrock manual said it would cost me $800 dollars for the extra labor. I contacted another and he said he didn't think it would cost extra unless they had to remove a belt (that would cost $125), but he didn't do the research that the other dealership had done. Does $800 sound reasonable? And, does the second dealership who told me it wouldn't cost extra not know what he's talking about?

If anyone has access to the tech bulletin and procedures to replace valve springs, that would help us understand how extra FI hardware affects this work.

The shop manual describes disassembling of engine, which starts by removing the fronts and pulleys... but I am hoping it isn’t necessary to replace valve springs ...

The dealer removes the engine , all the front pulleys and the timing cover. the cams need to be removed to replace the springs. the timing cover gasket and valve cover gaskets are replaced in this provedure.

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Originally Posted by kelpaso (Post 3185325)

why dont you just remove the SC kit yourself? yes 800 is way overpriced. it should only be 1 hour of labor to remove SC items out of the way. I hate it when dealers screw people over.

while you have the engine out, consider replacing the clutch and throwout bearing.

The service rep told me it would be about 5 hours of work extra because they need to take not just the SC off but a bunch of hoses too. Smaay, I'll look through the manual and see if I think this is a job I could take on. Thanks for the reply.

My car falls under the recall 13 Brz and I was able to register with no issues and HAVE NOT DONE RECALL .

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Everyone keeps saying (and taking at face value) that the car "has to be stock." Has actually anyone seen this policy in writing anywhere? If so, I'd LOVE to see the source. I don't think it has a leg to stand on legally. This ain't warranty work. It's NHTSA Mandated.

https://i.imgur.com/hx9C81N.png
https://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles...ecalls-FAQ.pdf

I've got an investigation opened with the NHTSA as their literature instructs.

Not my monkeys, not my circus.

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 3192017)

It's NHTSA Mandated. .

It's not NHTSA mandated, it is a voluntary recall by Subaru, and by follow-up, Toyota. There's a difference, but the net effect is the same in terms of the work.

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3192029)

It's not NHTSA mandated, it is a voluntary recall by Subaru, and by follow-up, Toyota. There's a difference, but the net effect is the same in terms of the work.

Fair enough, although I guess the NHTSA investigation I opened will determine if Subaru is following in good faith the guidelines they set forth when issuing the "voluntary" recall.

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 3192031)

Fair enough, although I guess the NHTSA investigation I opened will determine if Subaru is following in good faith the guidelines they set forth when issuing the "voluntary" recall.

I think you may be right about the aftermarket parts though. If you read through the Subaru instructions (did not review Toyota) on page 3 it says:

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Check for any vehicle modifications. If found, document them using the existing process outlined in the Claims Policies and Procedures section 8.4.45 “Procedures for Assessment, Documentation, and Notification of Non-Warrantable Repairs” using the “Vehicle Modification and Accident Damage Report” found on Subarunet under Service-Technical / Forms / Downloads.

• Note and review any items needing attention with the customer BEFORE proceeding. Having the customer initial these item by item on the repair order is highly recommended.
• Contact the SOA Techline immediately to review any concerns believed to be impeding or preventing proper completion of this recall. There should be very few if any cases where this would be necessary. A severe example of an impediment would be if the wrong specification engine is found to be installed. Nearly all aftermarket modifications can be worked around or removed to allow valve spring replacement to proceed.
• Contact the SOA Claims Team should removal and / or reinstallation of these customer modifications require significant additional time.

So at minimum it would appear that Subaru may be willing to pay for the workaround if it's reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Smaay (Post 3185572)

It's not going to take an hour to remove the edelbrock SC and return to stock. That's going to take about 6 hours.

My dealer refused to take the car unless it had been returned to stock. Contacted Subaru USA and after a week or so of back and forth they agreed with the dealer. They also refused to help in any way to cover the cost of SC removal and return to stock.

So, I have not done the recall so far.