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xantonin 05-20-2011 05:34 PM

Raised High Spoilers
 
I personally like them (if they fit the car, I hate aftermarket ones). Seems some people hate raised spoilers.

I'm not sure this was discussed, but I'm pretty sure the raised spoiler is for visibility.

Check it out.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...4&d=1305717181

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1305719133

Seems to me that you would hardly know it was there while driving. Of course none would provide better visibility, but kudos to Toyota/Subaru for appearing to take that into consideration if they do add one. I'm sure that is the reason for raising the spoiler so high.

Giccin 05-20-2011 05:37 PM

I'd like it more if it didn't look so ugly. But its still a prototype wrapped in.. eye-burning- night-club-wallpaper.

xantonin 05-20-2011 05:41 PM

Aye I just realized people might get the wrong idea...

Yes I know a spoiler is a device to modify air flow in order to increase fuel efficiency or improve handling in automobiles, and a wing is to generate downforce, etc. I'm just saying if for any of those reasons the engineers had to add a spoiler (for extra downforce - this is a pretty light car), it's good visibilty is taken into account.

bofa 05-20-2011 05:47 PM

It is a bit of a stigma and tends to draw attention visually. That's just not my style (esp on public roads). However if the design is providing a noticeable benefit to the performance of the car I can deal with it.

There are, however, plenty of high performance street cars with no spoiler or maybe small lip or gt style spoilers that work and look just fine. For comparison sake, the Lotus Exige (I know, different class, different price, but same small 2+2 car with balanced performance and it will run circles around the FR out of the box - okay maybe not circles, we'll see).

I've yet to find one that is a "must have", aesthetically speaking.

Edit: And oh yeah, no I wouldn't consider it more acceptable if the design is for rear window viewing. Even with limited rear view visibility, you still have your side mirrors and a neck... use em.

ToyotaObsession 05-20-2011 05:54 PM

It's easy to remove a Spoiler if you don't like it.

I don't see what the big deal is.

bofa 05-20-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession (Post 43294)
It's easy to remove a Spoiler if you don't like it.

I don't see what the big deal is.

It's easier to add than remove... cheaper for the manufacturer too.

xantonin 05-20-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofa (Post 43293)
Edit: And oh yeah, no I wouldn't consider it more acceptable if the design is for rear window viewing. Even with limited rear view visibility, you still have your side mirrors and a neck... use em.

I see you're one of those people that has their side mirrors set up incorrectly and use their side mirrors redundantly to get the same view of the back of their car that their rear mirror provides.

Perhaps I can interest you in this thread?

xantonin 05-20-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofa (Post 43297)
It's easier to add than remove... cheaper for the manufacturer too.

Not always. Also I'd be fine if they design a wing that matches the car and makes it an option to add. After market spoilers are usually generic and hideous.

bofa 05-20-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 43299)
I see you're one of those people that has their side mirrors set up incorrectly and use their side mirrors redundantly to get the same view of the back of their car that their rear mirror provides.

Perhaps I can interest you in this thread?

They are adjustable... if you are having that difficult a time, its not hard to press a button, twice. Trust me, mine are set up just fine.

bofa 05-20-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 43301)
Not always. Also I'd be fine if they design a wing that matches the car and makes it an option to add. After market spoilers are usually generic and hideous.

It's always easier to add them. Removing them, especially park benches like the STi, involve filling holes and repainting for it to look right.

It's always cheaper to not include them in production... simply less parts.

RRnold 05-20-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 43288)
I personally like them (if they fit the car, I hate aftermarket ones). Seems some people hate raised spoilers.

I'm not sure this was discussed, but I'm pretty sure the raised spoiler is for rice-ability.

Fixed! :bellyroll:

ryun84 05-20-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofa (Post 43313)
It's always easier to add them. Removing them, especially park benches like the STi, involve filling holes and repainting for it to look right.

It's always cheaper to not include them in production... simply less parts.

Luckily there are WRX owners who are willing to do trunk swaps. I doubt that all the FR-S's will come stock with such a wing though. I'm not worried.

andygee 05-20-2011 06:17 PM

i prefer the other spoiler. i doubt it had visibility issues

Dark 05-20-2011 06:22 PM

I can live with that wing, but I prefer rear lip spoiler. If the raised wing has its own feature, I don't have to swap it with the lip.


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