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leevanf 12-25-2018 02:22 AM

Can you feel 5-7 pounds of wheel weight per corner? 20 lbs total
 
How does 5-7 pounds per corner less of wheel and tire weight savings really feel like? I mean i am sensitive to an empty gas tank. So would i feel it especially over potholes and bumpy roads?

FR-Sky 12-25-2018 04:56 AM

It is a different perspective.
I felt much different when I changed to Enkei rpf1, but not much different taking out all the stuff from the trunk. (my trunk was stripped.)

chaoskaze 12-25-2018 06:01 AM

You should go test drive a fellow 86 owner's car with lighter wheel/tires.:party0030:

TommyW 12-25-2018 06:04 AM

It's not the overall weight that it affects it's the unsprung weight. You feel it in the brakes, steering and suspension for the most part

Maxxturbo 12-26-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3166669)
It's not the overall weight that it affects it's the unsprung weight. You feel it in the brakes, steering and suspension for the most part


Also under acceleration.......

Impureclient 12-26-2018 01:03 AM

I felt a 4.5 lb drop for sure changing wheels but got used to it pretty quick after a couple times driving it.

Decep 12-26-2018 01:12 AM

TBH i felt nothing going from stock wheels to 17x8 RPF1s which are super light. i didnt upsize tires either.

jflogerzi 12-26-2018 01:13 AM

That's quite a bit. What wheel and tire combo did u get? You will notice.. but more on canyon and track days vs DD.

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StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-26-2018 01:44 AM

I notice a difference in acceleration and ride quality changing from summer to winter tires on the same rim

Adam_L 12-26-2018 02:20 AM

Outer wheel weight (tire) is more significant of a weight issue then alloy wheels. However, trying to reduce tire weight by 1-3 pounds can /is difficult.

Doing both at the same time (new alloys shaving 3-7 lbs per corner) and new tires.... 215 /40- 17" , you'd probably notice a difference. Or , if you'd be willing to go 16" wheel, you for sure can reduce down wheel weight that way fast, but tire weight could still be similar to a 17" wheel ( due to the fact most 16" tires tend to have a higher profile , like a 205- 55- 16" )

If you live where it rains a lot, don't skimp... get a quality rain tire (not all season)

leevanf 12-26-2018 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 3166833)
Outer wheel weight (tire) is more significant of a weight issue then alloy wheels. However, trying to reduce tire weight by 1-3 pounds can /is difficult.

Doing both at the same time (new alloys shaving 3-7 lbs per corner) and new tires.... 215 /40- 17" , you'd probably notice a difference. Or , if you'd be willing to go 16" wheel, you for sure can reduce down wheel weight that way fast, but tire weight could still be similar to a 17" wheel ( due to the fact most 16" tires tend to have a higher profile , like a 205- 55- 16" )

If you live where it rains a lot, don't skimp... get a quality rain tire (not all season)



Hey adam, problem is this. I want the tws t66f in 16x7. That alone is a 10 lb savings. Problem is, tires are on the heavier side, likely 22-23lbs. Thats 2-3 more than stock primacy. So i net out about 7 lbs.


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leevanf 12-26-2018 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3166825)
That's quite a bit. What wheel and tire combo did u get? You will notice.. but more on canyon and track days vs DD.

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Looking at the TWS T66F 16x7, on 225/50 or 205/55 tires. Wheel is already 10lb savings vs stock. But tired are nearly 3 lbs heavier so its about 7 lbs net


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new2subaru 12-26-2018 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by leevanf (Post 3166844)
Looking at the TWS T66F 16x7, on 225/50 or 205/55 tires. Wheel is already 10lb savings vs stock. But tired are nearly 3 lbs heavier so its about 7 lbs net


You can go 205/50 R16. From what I read this is a very capable tire and you'll lose a pound or two.


https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

SuperTom 12-26-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by leevanf (Post 3166843)
Hey adam, problem is this. I want the tws t66f in 16x7. That alone is a 10 lb savings. Problem is, tires are on the heavier side, likely 22-23lbs. Thats 2-3 more than stock primacy. So i net out about 7 lbs.


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That's the issue I can up with when looking at the t66f plus the offset is high so they will be really tucked in as well meaning you might have to add spacers for either brake kit or just for looks.


Went with lightweight Konig Hypergrams 17x8 at 16.5lbs and stock size tires in Hankook Evo's at 19 lbs . So saved about 6lbs total for a lot less money then the t66f setup


As for your question its similar to the lightweight pulleys where you can feel some acceleration gains in 1st and second. Suspension wise the wheels will be able respond to bumps better and easier on the brakes to stop a lighter wheel


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