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spike021 12-24-2018 10:25 PM

TRD Front Canards on BRZ front bumper?
 
I’m taking a bit of a risk as I ordered and received a set of these canards recently. I haven’t attempted the install yet and I’m a little wary since it requires drilling. My friends and I think it should work, especially since the canards are more of a rubbery flexible material rather than hard plastic or CF.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else has installed these on a brz before as they are technically shaped for JDM GT86 front bumpers.

I found one person with an older brz who tried it and while the canards weren’t lined up super well, it looked doable.

Would be cool to see if others have done this install on a BRZ before as well.

Thanks in advance.

Aluma007 12-25-2018 08:42 PM

doubt they'll fit well, however I did see some new brz 2017+ canards on ftspeedfactory website...

norcalpb 12-25-2018 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3166602)
I’m taking a bit of a risk as I ordered and received a set of these canards recently. I haven’t attempted the install yet and I’m a little wary since it requires drilling. My friends and I think it should work, especially since the canards are more of a rubbery flexible material rather than hard plastic or CF.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else has installed these on a brz before as they are technically shaped for JDM GT86 front bumpers.

I found one person with an older brz who tried it and while the canards weren’t lined up super well, it looked doable.

Would be cool to see if others have done this install on a BRZ before as well.

Thanks in advance.

Not a 17+ but:

http://i.imgur.com/3gwFkPK.jpg

spike021 12-25-2018 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluma007 (Post 3166772)
doubt they'll fit well, however I did see some new brz 2017+ canards on ftspeedfactory website...

I don’t want CF though and most of not all are CF. I think there’s a chance they’d fit okay given the material they’re made of. It’s just hard to be sure since the bolts are built in, not removable, and thus it’s hard to test fit.

spike021 12-25-2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3166784)

Oooh thanks. Is that yours?

That definitely helps. The core idea is confirming they can be installed on a non GT86/FRS bumper. I’d been looking a bit with a friend who installed them recently on his FRS and thought it looked doable. But having examples is always helpful.

norcalpb 12-26-2018 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3166793)
Oooh thanks. Is that yours?

That definitely helps. The core idea is confirming they can be installed on a non GT86/FRS bumper. I’d been looking a bit with a friend who installed them recently on his FRS and thought it looked doable. But having examples is always helpful.

Not my car, but yeah if it all works out post pics!

Brink 12-29-2018 03:52 PM

You might have seen this already but:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...ostcount=17389

Vten 12-30-2018 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brink (Post 3167819)
You might have seen this already but:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...ostcount=17389

That’s my car :)

Me and that black car on top get it from the same manufacture @verus engineering.

norcalpb 12-30-2018 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vten (Post 3168105)
That’s my car :)

Me and that black car on top get it from the same manufacture @verus engineering.

The black car has TRD canards (I think he has Verus now) in that picture.

You can see yours have a squared “lip” at the end and the TRD are flat.

Brink 12-30-2018 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3168112)
The black car has TRD canards (I think he has Verus now) in that picture.

You can see yours have a squared “lip” at the end and the TRD are flat.

Yeah, I only noticed that after I linked it. Was never interested in canards myself so I hadn't learned to tell the difference before but now it's clearly a different shape.

x808drifter 12-31-2018 02:11 AM

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Gunman 12-31-2018 04:32 PM

The TRD dive planes, are the rubber, pedestrian friendly ones? I'd think they would flex enough to fit the bumper difference, but have not actually messed with them.

spike021 01-02-2019 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 3168314)
The TRD dive planes, are the rubber, pedestrian friendly ones? I'd think they would flex enough to fit the bumper difference, but have not actually messed with them.

Yep, that's why I winded up ordering them. My friend had recently bought and installed them on his FRS and we both thought it fairly reasonable to get them to confirm to a slightly differently contoured bumper.

Haven't done the install yet but it's definitely looking/sounding more and more feasible. The important thing is using the templates well enough for the positioning of where to drill the two holes for each.

vintagemxer 01-02-2019 11:14 PM

Hey Spike, I installed them on my '16 BRZ...Was @ the kickoff, banner was BAKO86...Talk to Neal, he saw how they are mounted ") !!!
Still not technically advanced enough to upload photo's...But put tools in my hand & it's a done deal...Installed mine a little more vertical to match the lines, maybe a little more push, but to me not noticeable...
Photo's in Garage...

spike021 01-23-2019 04:11 PM

Install went very well last night! At least for the kouki BRZ bumper, they actually match the lines of the bumper super well. These went on without any forced conforming/"bending" to the bumper. They match up nicely with the lines the bumper has, and the "rear" of the canards can be somewhat pointed and stuck on with their 3m tape in whatever direction you want. So my friend and I angled them toward the lower corner of the sidemarkers.

So yes, they do indeed work on 2017+ BRZ's at least. Hope this was helpful!

A couple quickie pictures from this morning:

https://i.imgur.com/UYxXsKF.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/czo33IS.jpg

spike021 01-23-2019 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluma007 (Post 3166772)
doubt they'll fit well, however I did see some new brz 2017+ canards on ftspeedfactory website...

they worked out just fine (check my previous reply).

eastendraceshop 01-23-2019 04:29 PM

https://i.imgur.com/UYxXsKF.jpg

I'm glad that you made them work! The BRZ looks great! :w00t:

JeremyR 01-23-2019 07:24 PM

Looks great man! Now time to show some love to the rear ;)

Kaotic Lazagna 01-23-2019 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyR (Post 3176738)
Looks great man! Now time to show some love to the rear ;)

He should get a Versus rear diffuser! Right, Josh? You know you want one. :lol:

Aluma007 01-23-2019 11:40 PM

you got them to fit, but it doesn't mean the angle of attack is correct...if it is, then great. If they were just for looks, then it looks fine.

spike021 01-24-2019 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluma007 (Post 3176841)
you got them to fit, but it doesn't mean the angle of attack is correct...if it is, then great. If they were just for looks, then it looks fine.

You sure are complaining a lot. I mean, you could be contributing at least halfway meaningful commentary to this thread, but you're not even doing that; you're just coming across as a **** that I, to be honest, did not expect you to be.

But, I'll respect your attempt at a 'critique' a bit. Least I can do for your time.

I mean, I obviously prefer it to be at least a little functional. but on the other hand I'm not going for a maximum performance build or anything. This car is one half daily, one quarter mountain roads challenger, and potentially one quarter track/road handling course car, but I have yet to do more than a single track day.

So, do I care if the "angle of attack" is correct? Sure. But if it's off by a bit and not getting me the best amount of additional airflow do I give a fuck? No.

FWIW, this is direct from the TRD Japan site:

https://i.imgur.com/xydywsq.png

Now, obviously my bumper is different from an 86 bumper. But this shows roughly the same positioning.

And another FWIW, while I don't have a picture to show this right now, the corners of the canards actually line up almost exactly with the winglets of my STI front lip. Now I'd assume their "angle of attack" is pretty accurate, and I'd thus imagine (though not being an expert myself, obviously, except with talking out of my ass) that if they match up with the canard, then they should be plenty "functional", if only a little.

:thanks:

Kaotic Lazagna 01-24-2019 05:46 AM

https://www.nbc.com/sites/nbcunbc/fi...m_anvver_2.jpg

Tcoat 01-24-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluma007 (Post 3176841)
you got them to fit, but it doesn't mean the angle of attack is correct...if it is, then great. If they were just for looks, then it looks fine.

Really? The angle of attack may not be correct? The affect of two small canards is so great that the angle of attack is critical?


Careful Spike. You hit Mach 3 and the whole car may take off or nose plow into the ground.


https://i.stack.imgur.com/rhfp0.jpg

churchx 01-24-2019 11:30 AM

It won't. Catback exhaust-vectoring will compensate canard aero.

Tcoat 01-24-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3176941)
It won't. Catback exhaust-vectoring will compensate canard aero.

Only if you have the TRD catbck to go with the TRD canards. Any other catback will just exacerbate the effect of the angle of attack.
God knows where Spike could end up.


https://media.giphy.com/media/aeKDyV2fsoJ4Q/giphy.gif

spike021 01-24-2019 12:48 PM

Lost in Space 3?

Kaotic Lazagna 01-24-2019 01:55 PM

Tesla in space 2.0. Haha

Tcoat 01-24-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3176975)
Lost in Space 3?

Who knows what you may bump into out there


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/88...56f1c471c1.gif

8RZ 01-24-2019 02:40 PM

This thread will go to the moon and back.

spike021 01-24-2019 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3177039)
This thread will go to the moon and back.

As long as future people who actually care about this shit are smart enough to go to the right post where I shared my results... :sigh: :lol:

Tcoat 01-24-2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3177051)
As long as future people who actually care about this shit are smart enough to go to the right post where I shared my results... :sigh: :lol:

You did a good job of that in the start. Nobody reads more than the first post or two anyway.

Yoshoobaroo 01-24-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3177019)
Who knows what you may bump into out there


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/88...56f1c471c1.gif



My heart skipped seeing Liara on my car forum feed :wub:

JeremyR 01-24-2019 05:34 PM

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

spike021 01-24-2019 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyR (Post 3177118)
I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

I'd personally be wary of their angle of attack.

:confused0068:

Kaotic Lazagna 01-24-2019 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3177131)
I'd personally be wary of their angle of attack.

:confused0068:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulAn...restricted.gif

Aluma007 01-24-2019 10:24 PM

LOL! dang, that escalated quickly...

I do read on, I do care.

That angle

tho

looks nice

and should add a little

downforce not that it would matter

as much as doing the verus front splitter with its

attached side wings. If I came across as something other than

helpful, I apologize. It looks nice on your car.

Enjoy!

TachyonBomb 01-24-2019 10:51 PM

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You guys are doing the lords word.

No it's time I return to the best Netflix geo-political bio-flick series on goblins ever created.... Yummie fucking Mummies!!!!


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