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quik1987 08-01-2012 05:10 PM

I don't see why they wouldn't bring convertibles.
It would fill the s2000 void, compete against the MX-5 and steal Z4/Boxter sales.

I think Subaru will bring the Turbo even if Scion doesn't

robo_robb 08-01-2012 05:11 PM

Personally, I would much rather see this type of car with a supercharger. It retains the properties of an NA, except with more power everywhere.

Let's face it: when compared to NA, turbo throttle response is lacking-- I don't care how small the turbo is.

ed209 08-01-2012 05:59 PM

i want all of you to mark my words, there WILL be a factory boosted version of this car at some point and it will be for sale here in the US...

jcX4ever 08-01-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniz (Post 351510)
All matter of opinion. I personally prefer and have had more fun with low weight/reasonable power cars, than higher powered cars.

Again one isn't necessarily better than the other, just a matter of preference.

Then don't press the gas all the way down if you don't want 100% of its power. I wonder if your car is not equipped with that pedal you step on your right foot.

I don't know why people who already purchased are hating the turbo concept... What if some of us here just want to drive in a straight line and just drag race? Turbo lag, balance -- all those excuses. A really balanced car should also be fast in straight line. No, a 15 second car is not fast enough for some people. Everyone has their own need.

GenkiElite 08-01-2012 06:07 PM

I think in this thread, for the most part, it's pretty obvious who has an FR-S or order and who doesn't

ed209 08-01-2012 06:11 PM

i just think this thread is full of people in denial. turbo lag, are we kidding here? how many of you complaining about turbo lag have ever even driven a turbo car, much less owned one. the boost threshold on my 400whp evo was about 3400 rpm and not a single fuck was given in regard to turbo lag...

funcheung 08-01-2012 06:29 PM

Turbo? could care less, My 2011 STI was my one n only turbo car n i traded it for a BRZ cuz i hate Turbo cars.

ed209 08-01-2012 06:37 PM

you are clearly broken.

xwd 08-01-2012 06:37 PM

Not really putting much faith in that article... I'll believe it when they announce it. It took them a few years to bring the STi to the US but eventually they did, and it's not a cheap car. I don't think price has anything to do with it.

nedmundo 08-01-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed209 (Post 353017)
i want all of you to mark my words, there WILL be a factory boosted version of this car at some point and it will be for sale here in the US...

I agree. Keep in mind that this exact engine might appear in the next WRX [I]with[I] a turbo, in which case engineering is well underway, albeit without the constraints of the FT-86 engine bay. I have owned a turbo car, and some with excellent NA engines. On the highway, the mid range punch of a turbo simply rules, but everywhere else I prefer NA for the more linear response. That said, some modern turbo cars are so well executed that you would not even guess they are turbocharged from behind the wheel. The new BMW 3 Series is a good example.

Assuming a turbocharged FR-S/BRZ is executed that well, I'd probably go for it, but I certainly understand those afraid of upsetting the current car's harmonious feel. More power with NA would be ideal.

And more choice is always good, so I say bring on the FI and convertible.

sbxjap 08-01-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trojan_SC (Post 352616)
This is what happens because we (Americans) expect the best at a cheap price. Not necessarily a bad thing, but often times, especially with these cars, we get the shaft. Oh well. At least now I can tell all the haters who say "should've waited for a turbo version" to keep waiting lol



but we, as Americans, will be so mad that turbo version costs so much more, lol...

WRX and STi are about $8k (give or take the different options)... but if the BRZ was $8k difference, A LOT of people will whine.

ed209 08-01-2012 06:44 PM

then they don't have to buy it. i know for a fact i'd buy a turbo version of this car at any price.

Mulder 08-01-2012 06:50 PM

I don't believe for a second that a FI model won't be available here in the USA. To many people are wanting it.

FRiSson 08-01-2012 06:52 PM

I for one am glad to not have a convertible version available. I think it preserves the purist quality of this car. Unlike almost every other sports car out there, the FR-S doesn't scream out that you are rich or self-indulgent. It says one thing - brilliantly clear - that the owner is a person who cares about the art of driving.


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