!SCAMMED BY Mpower318!
 

I purchased an aluminum driveshaft from Mpower318 one month ago for $300. I didnt get a chance to install it for 2 weeks. When I did, it vibrated badly above 70mph. I assumed I installed it incorrectly (even though it's pretty hard to screw up a drive shaft install!) and went about trying a different position. The yoke on the front is channeled, so it only goes in 1 way. There are 4 bolts on the rear so I tried 4 different positions, but it always vibrated badly above 70mph. Frustrated, I took it to a local shop and they confirmed that it's not straight. I contacted Mpower318 and this was his reply:

"Sir...i had no problem when i had it on my car...i didn't understand why u say is not straight... This is a good drive shaft when i sold it to u...now it is in yours hands and on your car after so many days...how you want me to be response to it after it was on your car sir? Sorry sir...the only thing i can do is help you contract the company who sold it to me..."

Bullshit...

DON'T LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU!!


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How did you pay for it? File a dispute.

When you installed your old driveshaft, did it NOT have the vibration?


humfrz

If you paid via paypal file a dispute. In the end paypal will ask you to ship it back to him and give you a refund

Unfortunately I paid cash. I know I don't have much recourse (short of going to his job where I bought it from him [emoji48]), but I wanted to let others know what he does.

When I put the OEM drive shaft back on, it didn't vibrate at all. I was also surprised by how much hp I had lost putting that bent POS on my car!

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Feel free to let his employers know what happened. Most companies do not look kindly upon their employees being known scammers.

You should do what CSG mike said, plus a little extra if you want to get your money back.

Looking at this original post:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130279

He does say that it "worked great", and his thread suggests it works fine even though his wording is off.
"This is like new......very low miles"
@ichitaka05 is it possible to lock the linked thread or something so @Hadalet can use it as evidence if he decides to go to small claims or something.

Also @Hadalet you should submit feedback about his sale here, as well as screenshot and save all correspondences to a folder on your computer:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/itrader.php?u=156956

At least to prevent others from being ripped off.

Also quick research shows that in LA you can go after him easily at very little cost in small claims:

http://www.lacourt.org/division/smal...allclaims.aspx

It may be difficult to prove that he intentionally sent a broken part though

If you are stuck with it.


Did you roll it on a flat surface? If bent it is scrap.
If strait, then out of balance and you might be able to have a driveshaft shop balance it by welding weights on the metal ends.

One dude says it was bent.
Other says it was fine when shipped.
Why do we automatically assume the guy ripped anybody off?
Because the "victim" posted first?
Would the responses have been different if the seller posted first that he shipped a perfectly good product and the buyer now said it was junk?
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perhaps get a second opinion from a shop that deals with driveline parts and see if it is just out of balance

Because he paid cash for it. You can only pay cash for something in person...

Doesn't mean it didn't get damaged after he bought it.
Still only have one side of the story so passing judgement is impossible.

if it's a busted driveshaft, wouldn't it be make noises at other speeds beside above 70? Also, would an improper install cause it to warp?

I was close to buying this from him, glad i didnt. Sucks..

Did you inspect it and roll it before you gave him the cash?

@Mpower318 dude you gotta answer to this thread at least, you're selling your car means you can easily dump stuff on this forum and never look back which won't bode well for you. You should at least answer some of the questions

hmmm....what if someone mailed the cash??


Yep, another slow day in Puyallup - :D


humfrz

OMG......THIS PEROSN WHO BOUGHT THR DRIVE SHAFT FROM ME MESSAGE BACK AFTER ALMOST 2 Moths! It was a perfect drive shaft when I had it... This drive shaft is still under warranty ! i even offer him for the warranty! i still got the recipe ! My parts were like new.....everything on my car was only 3 moths old..i dont race..no lunching..no drag ..what so ever! i sold him a perfect drive shaft .after 2 moths .....his asking me to buy back a broken shaft? Now his posting this over few hundred bucks trying make me look like a bad guy on the forum

You guys can even ask the person who bought my coilover ..headlights . Rims.. Exhaust and
All other parts..no one complain but happy with it....if any one one come back to you for a part that u have sold after a long.......time..... What would u say? After your use age of 2 moths ...u are asking me to buy back a broken shaft that was not cause by me..sir.. I felt sorry for the drive shaft ..but i am not the bad person here..I DID NOT Sold you a broken shaft.....is not worth it ....

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:thanks:

sir
I didn't even know when this was posted, i don't ever check this section of the forum, until you @ me (thank you sir).... I didn' t ran away from this because of a used drive shaft sir.......I sold the car ....that doesn't mean that i don't reply ...
this shaft I bought from ft86club....i still have a recipe and I did offer to help him get it under warranty, but no reply since........now after 2 months his calling me a scammer........ a done wrong install also can cause this shaft to bent under hard accelerations .......... Do I become the bad dude because he posts first? yes, but no......i am not.....sir......... please check out my other post, most of the parts are from ft86 club, I can show all recipes with dates!....if I am a scammer, why would I still reply to his？

thank you sir:thumbsup:

I am not a scammers sir...
if i am, i won't even ask him to come to my workplace, instead of some random place ...sir please, hear both sides.....

sir, I felt really sorry that your drive shaft is bent, first of all, I didn't sell you a bent shaft as I said: it was perfectly straight when I had it on my frs. I didn't know how you installed, but uneven torque on the bolts or other aspects can also cause damage to your shaft under hard acceleration. should take it to a shop the first time....sir, i don't want to see you with all this hate, but I swear to god that I did not sell you a bent shaft.....please ... this type of shaft is made out of aluminum sir, I highly recommend to use a torque wrench to evenly torque all the bolts sir....i never tracked, never launched or any hard acceleration, the reason why I sold the frs is because I am getting tired of keep shifting gearing ( i had a stick shift, i didn't know the gears ratio was so close), now sir, if you want to I can e-mail ft86speedfactory where I bought the shaft from and see if they can do anything about it?

he said she said.

Seems both sides are witholding facts.

Sir,


Do you still have the recipe after all these moths?


Cand you post the recipe for all to sees?

Moth recipe? doesnt sound very tasty. :lol:




...Receipt

It's really not that easy to bend a drive shaft.

However, I also have a little bit of a hard time believing a scammer will meet up with the person to do a trade in cash.

I don't know why the OP didn't take the seller up on his offer of using the warranty (assuming that offer was really made).

Not sure we will ever get to the bottom of what happened to the driveshaft.

I think it is safe to say that the offer was made. The reply posted by the OP just happens to be cut off right at that point.

Did it fly over your head like a moth? :lol:

Sir.....

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It's all in the preparation.

Disagree. It is all in getting a free range not a feed lot one. The free range is much better since they are not filled with hormones and waste products. Even the best feed lot ones are no good no matter how you prepare them.


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Holy crap this got stupid [emoji848]. I bought it ONE MONTH prior to contacting him about the problem, not two. I didnt get a chance to install it for two weeks, but did roll it on a flat floor when I got home and it rolled flat. It stayed rolled in carpet under a shelf until I had a chance to install it. Amazingly, two weeks later it was unharmed by the jagged and abrasive burbur carpet I so haphazardly rolled it in[emoji849]. Install was easy, I know how to use a torque wrench and I've done this many times on many different cars, trucks and a van or two. When I did, it vibrated badly above 70 and lost power at all speeds. My 1st thought was I installed it incorrectly somehow. I took it off, checked to see if it still rolled flat (it did) and reinstalled it in a different position. Same thing in all 4 positions. I took it to a local shop where they told me it was out of balance and said some other shop could probably fix it. That's when I contacted the seller and got his reply. Since then for shits and giggles I installed it on a friends BRZ. Same shit, different car. I understand that I didn't install it right away and didn't contact him with my concerns until a month later. If someone contacted me a month after I sold them something saying it was broken, I'd be suspicious too. But nothing happened to it while I had it. I also have a hard time believing it was fine on his car and not two others. Unless something happened between the time he took it off and the time he sold it to me. Now I'm stuck with an out of balance driveshaft that's going to end up costing me more than a new one once I get it fixed.



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How much would it cost to have the driveshaft balanced?

How much would it cost for a new driveshaft?

If it's cost effective to have it balanced, I suggest you have it balanced and keep the receipt with a note from the shop, that it was in fact out of balance.

Then send a copy of the receipt and the shop's statement to the seller and ask him to pay half of the cost to have had the driveshaft balanced.

If the seller refuses, chalk that up to experience - about buying used stuff.


humfrz

Can you provide us pictures of the driveshaft now? It should have weights that are either glued or welded to the shaft. I have a hard time believing the driveshaft is bent simply because it's not that easy to do. I had a local clutch and drive line shop make me front driveshafts for Jeep wranglers that had the CV shaft. Those CV's always grenaded and no one wants to spend a grand on a new one so we went to a standard u-joint. Whole thing ran 225 out the door. I'd imagine it's not bent like claimed in the first post but needs rebalanced like claimed in the second quote. If that's the case I'd just spend 100 or so and get it balanced and call it a day.

Check out driveshaft pro in SD and Oceanside driveline in Oceanside. Should help you get fixed up

I am kind of confused. Got the shaft, waited a while ,then put it on and vibrated. went to a shop and was told it was bent. Last post says he checked for straightness when he got it and was ok. Now says it is out of balance. What did the first shop check to find it bent after he said he check and it was strait? Usually the weights are mounted on the outside making floor checking impossible. Are there points indicating the weights have come off?


More questions than answers.