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DarkPira7e 12-03-2018 12:45 PM

Honestly, I think the car has had a healthy life span - why do we need to perpetuate the new manufacturing of this platform? All good things come to an end - let the manufacturers dedicate their resources to the up and coming, rather than re-heating old, but good pizza.

Tcoat 12-03-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3160529)
Honestly, I think the car has had a healthy life span - why do we need to perpetuate the new manufacturing of this platform? All good things come to an end - let the manufacturers dedicate their resources to the up and coming, rather than re-heating old, but good pizza.

Yep. They offered up an inexpensive, lightweight, NA powered car based on extensive market research that told them it was what was wanted. If it isn't what some people want then they really don't care. Should they change it to what one group wants then there will just be another group that will complain it is different. Whatever plans they have were made before the first car ever rolled off the line and no amount of internet whining will change them.
Don't think this will be a model that will carry on through several different versions until the end result is a vehicle that only shares the name with it's predecessors. Ya, I am looking at YOU "Supra".

bcj 12-03-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3160543)
several different versions until the end result is a vehicle that only shares the name with it's predecessors. Ya, I am looking at YOU "Supra".

Thunderbird

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DarkPira7e 12-03-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3160543)
Don't carry on through, this will be a end result that shares different versions until the vehicle is a looking that name with it's Supra. Ya, YOU "predecessors".

Spoken words truer¿ been never have

Dadhawk 12-03-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3160543)
a, I am looking at YOU "Supra".

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Originally Posted by bcj (Post 3160588)
Thunderbird

Chevy Blazer

qcbaker 12-03-2018 04:53 PM

Pontiac GTO?

Tcoat 12-03-2018 04:56 PM

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Hypnocracy 12-03-2018 05:09 PM

I want the 86 to last as long and have as many variations as teh Porsche 911...it's only three years younger than me...


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Just realized the first 911T 1973 model I drove only had 140hp and 148.5ftlb of torque and weighed 2315lbs...that was a fun car with tires sized 165mm70 15...127mph top end like the twin too...

https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/23


It was bright Orange-Red...We called it "Hand-grenade Orange"


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qcbaker 12-03-2018 05:22 PM

So what, specifically, does a manufacturer need to do to make a "good" successor?

For example, what changes should be made to the current Charger to make it more worthy of the name? Could the modern Challenger just have a Charger nameplate slapped onto it instead and be a "better" successor? What would you change about the new Supra?

Hypnocracy 12-03-2018 05:31 PM

Make constant improvements...not bloat like the 70's 240-260-280 Z cars...and don't go backward ala Mustang II...to start

RToyo86 12-03-2018 06:39 PM

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Tcoat 12-03-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by qcbaker (Post 3160646)
So what, specifically, does a manufacturer need to do to make a "good" successor?

For example, what changes should be made to the current Charger to make it more worthy of the name? Could the modern Challenger just have a Charger nameplate slapped onto it instead and be a "better" successor? What would you change about the new Supra?

Well for starters let's not take a 4 door sedan, slap a badge on it and call it something it has zero in common with.
The Challenger is a good example of doing it well. So are the Camaro and Mustang. Even though they have changed over the years you can still see the heritage.
So exactly what can you say about the Supra that ties it to the previous generations? You can't even go with "Toyota made it". I am not saying I would change anything but that does not make a brand new designed from the ground up car a continuance to anything other than in name. It is just marketing in the long run.

PetrolioBenzina 12-03-2018 11:10 PM

A "Supra" would have a Toyota inline six. Hand it over to the same engineers who did the LFA engine.

86MLR 12-03-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3160742)
A "Supra" would have a Toyota inline six. Hand it over to the same engineers who did the LFA engine.

Supra needs a tweeked 3.5L twin-turbo V6 engine from the new Lexus.

IMO a V6 has better harmonics than IL6.

Sadly, the Supra is a BMW not a Toyota.

Just like the Toyota 86 is really a Subaru BRZ with a couple of Toyota P/N's.

It's just lucky the twins come from the breeding of 2 Jap car makers with good reliability.

If the twins were a Subaru and BMW mix I would not have a Toyota 86 :scared0016:


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