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Tokay444 07-23-2019 04:09 PM

"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

mav1178 07-23-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3240288)
"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

You sound like fun at parties.

Tokay444 07-23-2019 04:18 PM

People at parties not like the truth or something?

CSG Mike 07-23-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3240288)
"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

While I neither condone nor encourage it, I occasionally rev up to 7800.

Anything over the factory redline of 7400, is "at your own risk", and you 100% will not be under warranty of any sort.

steverife 07-24-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3240225)
Bouncing off the red line consistently does not sound very fast to me.

It isn't ideal, but...

In a 60 second run, you might have 5 or 6 instances where you get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or maybe more limiter hits. Sometimes you would have to immediately downshift, sometimes there isn't really a chance to take your hand off the wheel to upshift and/or downshift.

why? 07-24-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3240288)
"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

The only engines that have consistently blown are the ones with ridiculous redlines, like 9k. There is zero proof the stock redline will blow up cars.

Oiling issues aren't about the rev limit. Many cars would have oiling issues if you tracked them, because most cars you buy off of lots are not meant for that.

People that actually take care of their cars will be fine. You use your car in a way that the manufacturer did not expect, and you will have issues you need to correct. Every issue is correctable.

Stop pretending these are made to order race cars.

Pat 07-24-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by steverife (Post 3240491)
It isn't ideal, but...

In a 60 second run, you might have 5 or 6 instances where you get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or maybe more limiter hits. Sometimes you would have to immediately downshift, sometimes there isn't really a chance to take your hand off the wheel to upshift and/or downshift.

Fair enough. I guess our understanding of the word "consistently" differs.

steverife 07-24-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3240530)
Fair enough. I guess our understanding of the word "consistently" differs.

Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen anyone hold it like the new vid where the dude blows up a C5 in an apartment complex parking lot.

..but your initial post was sustain 7k and a lot of autocross happens at 7k+.

Dr. BRZ 07-24-2019 12:57 PM

If you don't redline at yours much, then you bought the wrong car. Sell it, buy a prius, and live your life old man ��

churchx 07-24-2019 12:58 PM

steverife: if mis-gearing is very common, and one happens to be lingering at redline too often/too long on most tracks one drives at .. imho different FD/gearing should be considered, no?

Lantanafrs2 07-24-2019 02:01 PM

I have to redline mine to out accelerate Florida SUVs. Some of those things are quick!

Nevermore 07-24-2019 02:58 PM

My main lament about my auto is the taller gears. It will hit 60 in 2nd so redlining is only possible above the legal limit. That being said, 5k is a beautiful sound.

Tokay444 07-24-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 3240492)
The only engines that have consistently blown are the ones with ridiculous redlines, like 9k. There is zero proof the stock redline will blow up cars.

Oiling issues aren't about the rev limit. Many cars would have oiling issues if you tracked them, because most cars you buy off of lots are not meant for that.

People that actually take care of their cars will be fine. You use your car in a way that the manufacturer did not expect, and you will have issues you need to correct. Every issue is correctable.

Stop pretending these are made to order race cars.

If you don’t think oil feeding/pressure and engine longevity at revs aren’t related, I’m not sure how to help you.
I just got back from an invite only Toyota Canada Track day, using my car the way they intended, and test driving the new Supra.

DocWalt 07-24-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3240552)
steverife: if mis-gearing is very common, and one happens to be lingering at redline too often/too long on most tracks one drives at .. imho different FD/gearing should be considered, no?


Can't change gearing in the autocross classes the 86 is competitive in.


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