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Ultramaroon 08-27-2018 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3126147)
Darn you caught on to the brake pad bandits again!

Was just thinking out loud.

86MLR 08-27-2018 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Spacemane969 (Post 3126037)
Feels a tad bit, like 50 of the travel is air sometimes but I think I'm just used to the twitchiness of the street pads I tried. 85k miles

Brakes need maintenance, I bleed my brakes and service my calpers before and after every track day.

If you don't go to the track I would bleed the brakes yearly, at a minimum, while your there pull off the calipers and clean them well with brake clean, check your seals, check your pistons and throw on a little anti seize on the pins

If you travel on wet or dirty roads pull your pads and clean, service your calipers more often.

I tend to be pretty thorough when it comes to servicing and maintaining my brakes.

A little maintenance doesn't take long and it will keep your stoppers in peak condition.

dutchman1 08-27-2018 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126162)
...check your pistons and throw on a little anti seize on the pins.


Not to be nitpicky, but you'd be better off using grease rather than anti seize. Anti seize is a great high temp lube, but a terrible high pressure lube. It squeezes out when two surfaces come together, unlike grease which leaves a film.

Jamestl 08-27-2018 03:41 PM

GUY!!!! CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK OFF TOPIC??!!??!

YOU'RE RUINING THE THREAD!!!!!

86MLR 08-27-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamestl (Post 3126340)
GUY!!!! CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK OFF TOPIC??!!??!

YOU'RE RUINING THE THREAD!!!!!

Your right, why would maintaining your brakes have any effect on brakes IRT feel and performance.

Forgive my ignorance.......

Ultramaroon 08-27-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126432)
Your right, why would maintaining your brakes have any effect on brakes IRT feel and performance.

Forgive my ignorance.......

Off topic, not on. On topic is already answered and boring.


Now is the time when we dance on Sprockets.


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86MLR 08-27-2018 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3126454)
Off topic, not on. On topic is already answered and boring.


Now is the time when we dance on Sprockets.


https://i.gifer.com/Chty.gif

My view is the OP had a question, from that question it seems he may not be as experienced as you IRT brakes and their requirements to stay functioning, both in a performance aspect and safety.

Other members have put in some valid and good responses, others, not so much.

Not everyone in an expert or component in these matters, hell, I'm no expert, but, I've learned alot from experience and browsing forums.

The problem is when a post gets derailed before the OP's question has been answered it becomes just another useless thread without any real benifit.

Apart from bored people with nothing better to do than derail a thread without actually attempting to answer a question.

I feel sorry for some members when they post a question, which, in their mind is valid, and it gets derailed by bored people.

Sure there are questions which seem strange, but, if the replies are IRT to the question maybe the OP can learn something.


But carry on as you were, don't supply any relevant information, and continue to turn a post which could have some relevant information into another wasteland thread of post counts.

On topic: OP, valid question, no you cannot really tell pad thickness at the pedal, but, you can diagnose issues like bad fluid, siezed or poorly functioning calipers, warped discs.

If you want to check your pads pull the wheels and have a look, while your there check for cracks, thickness and wear IRT your discs.

There is a plethora of information IRT brakes, you just need to sort through the crap, brakes shoud be right up there with your periodical maintenance, get to know them well.

86MLR 08-27-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchman1 (Post 3126240)
Not to be nitpicky, but you'd be better off using grease rather than anti seize. Anti seize is a great high temp lube, but a terrible high pressure lube. It squeezes out when two surfaces come together, unlike grease which leaves a film.

My personal opinion is I like anti-seize for its properties, I would never use grease for brakes.

Ultramaroon 08-27-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126493)
My view is the OP had a question, from that question it seems he may not be as experienced as you IRT brakes and their requirements to stay functioning, both in a performance aspect and safety.

Fair cop. We may get a little carried away from time to time. :D

Ultramaroon 08-27-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126497)
My personal opinion is I like anti-seize for its properties, I would never use grease for brakes.

Oh, just saw this. Strongly disagree here.

Anti-seize is NOT a lubricant. (well, not primarily) It is an anti-corrosive. If it was good for the guide pins then the manufacturer would use it there.

Stick with the manufacturer's recommendation. Three different compounds are specified for the caliper.

https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal...00CIF02EX.html

Jamestl 08-27-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126493)
My view is the OP had a question, from that question it seems he may not be as experienced as you IRT brakes and their requirements to stay functioning, both in a performance aspect and safety.

Other members have put in some valid and good responses, others, not so much.

Not everyone in an expert or component in these matters, hell, I'm no expert, but, I've learned alot from experience and browsing forums.

The problem is when a post gets derailed before the OP's question has been answered it becomes just another useless thread without any real benifit.

Apart from bored people with nothing better to do than derail a thread without actually attempting to answer a question.

I feel sorry for some members when they post a question, which, in their mind is valid, and it gets derailed by bored people.

Fair comment, but I think the answer to the question has been well covered in the initial responses before it turned silly (and fun)...

86MLR 08-27-2018 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3126508)
Oh, just saw this. Strongly disagree here.

Anti-seize is NOT a lubricant. (well, not primarily) It is an anti-corrosive. If it was good for the guide pins then the manufacturer would use it there.

Stick with the manufacturer's recommendation. Three different compounds are specified for the caliper.

https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal...00CIF02EX.html

Cheers for the link, I will need to look into this more it seems.

I've been using silver anti-seize for 30 years on the backing plates and pins .

I've never had a issue using anti-seize, street cars, track cars, bikes, but, that is along time to be doing it wrong.

More research is needed on my part, I'll do some googles on the OEM Brembo's and find out what I'm meant to be using on them.

Cheers

Ultramaroon 08-27-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3126534)
Cheers for the link, I will need to look into this more it seems.

I've been using silver anti-seize for 30 years on the backing plates and pins .

I've never had a issue using anti-seize, street cars, track cars, bikes, but, that is along time to be doing it wrong.

More research is needed on my part, I'll do some googles on the OEM Brembo's and find out what I'm meant to be using on them.

Cheers

One could do worse. It's certainly not the end of the world but anti-seize is primarily intended to prevent, well, seizing of threaded (and other) joints, especially those subject to very high temperatures where conventional greases decompose.


The nickel stuff stands out because it's quite toxic.


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