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AndyBRZ 08-15-2018 04:52 PM

Hi there. First off let me congratulate you for having a fantastic disposition to learn. Your humbleness is going to take you far away into this hobby.
Like you, I am local to this track and I live in Bolingbrook. I track with a time attack prepped by me 2014 BRZ.
You were running ABBC South. In our cars turns 13 and 14 are quite simple. Come into turn 13 full gas and lift briefly before marker 1 to set your front suspension. Stay as left as possible and then roll into turn 13/14 throttle steering and aiming to get fully on the gas as early as possible positively carrying maximum speed through this sector. You need to track out after turn 14 all the way left getting maximum usage of the track. Turn 13 and 14 should be tied into one motion from the steering wheel. Your main goal through these turns is to carry as much speed as possible before you set for turn 1 and that depends on tire stick, weather conditions and most importantly on your work through the previous complex of turns 11 and 12. Turn 11 is the one that that really defines your final speed before turn 13 and believe me when I tell you, this is why turn 11 is nicknamed Patience.
In our cars or in Miatas between turn 12 and 13 you can seep your cup of coffee :)
Best of luck to you buddy.

Jamestl 08-15-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyBRZ (Post 3121943)
Hi there. First off let me congratulate you for having a fantastic disposition to learn. Your humbleness is going to take you far away into this hobby.
Like you, I am local to this track and I live in Bolingbrook. I track with a time attack prepped by me 2014 BRZ.
You were running ABBC South. In our cars turns 13 and 14 are quite simple. Come into turn 13 full gas and lift briefly before marker 1 to set your front suspension. Stay as left as possible and then roll into turn 13/14 throttle steering and aiming to get fully on the gas as early as possible positively carrying maximum speed through this sector. You need to track out after turn 14 all the way left getting maximum usage of the track. Turn 13 and 14 should be tied into one motion from the steering wheel. Your main goal through these turns is to carry as much speed as possible before you set for turn 1 and that depends on tire stick, weather conditions and most importantly on your work through the previous complex of turns 11 and 12. Turn 11 is the one that that really defines your final speed before turn 13 and believe me when I tell you, this is why turn 11 is nicknamed Patience.
In our cars or in Miatas between turn 12 and 13 you can seep your cup of coffee :)
Best of luck to you buddy.

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the kind words and notes about the turn. I thought turns 9/10 was called "patience?" Anyway, which group do you usually run with? Maybe I'll seee you at the track at some point and can get a ride. :)

Racecomp Engineering 08-15-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3121939)
STFU, Andrew. Nobody asked YOU!

I meant everyone except Stang70Fastback, who sucks. :)

- Andrew

Racecomp Engineering 08-15-2018 05:19 PM

@Jamestl I suggest repositioning your camera to show your hands if possible. At this stage of your driving development it's helpful to see afterwards.

- Andrew

Jamestl 08-15-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3121952)
@Jamestl I suggest repositioning your camera to show your hands if possible. At this stage of your driving development it's helpful to see afterwards.

- Andrew

Good point. Not sure whether the line will run from the Solo all the way back so I may need to put the solo in the back as well. Worth playing with it for sure. :)

AndyBRZ 08-15-2018 05:26 PM

Hey James, Turn 9 in the full course configuration is turn 11 in the south course configuration. You were indeed running the South Track so I called it turn 11. In any case, it is patience and you have to be.... If you want to build more speed before the sector you were inquiring about.
I run in the instructor group and I will be delighted to work with you.
Quite frankly, although the ABCC is and OK track, I do not go there anymore since last year. I think I am really tired of it :(
The positive is that I go a little farther but much better race tracks and weather. Hit me up in a private message and we can chat at your convenience. We could also hook up on a weekend one of these weekend days so you can see my BRZ.

Jamestl 08-15-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyBRZ (Post 3121955)
Hey James, Turn 9 in the full course configuration is turn 11 in the south course configuration. You were indeed running the South Track so I called it turn 11. In any case, it is patience and you have to be.... If you want to build more speed before the sector you were inquiring about.
I run in the instructor group and I will be delighted to work with you.
Quite frankly, although the ABCC is and OK track, I do not go there anymore since last year. I think I am really tired of it :(
The positive is that I go a little farther but much better race tracks and weather. Hit me up in a private message and we can chat at your convenience. We could also hook up on a weekend one of these weekend days so you can see my BRZ.

Awesome! I'll take you up on the offer!

Pat 08-15-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamestl (Post 3121882)
Please don't apologize. You're using your time to provide advice and perspective, and that's helpful even if it's constructive criticism.

I love you

Jamestl 08-15-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3121967)
I love you

I see you too, sexy! :wub:

RJasonKlein 08-16-2018 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyBRZ (Post 3121955)
Hey James, Turn 9 in the full course configuration is turn 11 in the south course configuration. You were indeed running the South Track so I called it turn 11. In any case, it is patience and you have to be.... If you want to build more speed before the sector you were inquiring about.
I run in the instructor group and I will be delighted to work with you.
Quite frankly, although the ABCC is and OK track, I do not go there anymore since last year. I think I am really tired of it :(
The positive is that I go a little farther but much better race tracks and weather. Hit me up in a private message and we can chat at your convenience. We could also hook up on a weekend one of these weekend days so you can see my BRZ.

Hey @Jamestl and @AndyBRZ - I’m a newbie, but I live in Clarendon Hills and work in Bolingbrook, and I’d really like to have local 86 guys to show me the path to becoming a track junkie! No pressure, but if you set up a meeting together I sure would appreciate an invite, too.

Jamestl 08-16-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RJasonKlein (Post 3122114)
Hey @Jamestl and @AndyBRZ - I’m a newbie, but I live in Clarendon Hills and work in Bolingbrook, and I’d really like to have local 86 guys to show me the path to becoming a track junkie! No pressure, but if you set up a meeting together I sure would appreciate an invite, too.

Will send you a PM. You’ll be addicted in no time!

Joesurf79 08-16-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamestl (Post 3122159)
Will send you a PM. You’ll be addicted in no time!

"Just this once, I just want to try it..."
"I learned it from watching you!"
"It isn't hurting anyone..."

Addiction is real. You'll think bleeding brakes is fun. Soon enough you'll be selling off interior parts to fund the next set of tires. Screeching to a halt because swapping track pads between weekends is a hassle. Then you'll be driving a 10 year old truck to tow the track car. Contemplating how badly you need both kidneys, because 1) lighter weight 2) more tires, pads, track fees ;) Do my kids really need any help with college?

Ultramaroon 08-16-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3121933)
This thread....*sniff*....it makes me feel really good. This forum is so far ahead of others in terms of patiently helping others that ask nicely. Good people on this forum.

:clap:

- Andrew

Was a good thread until you made it all ghey.


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