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Racecomp Engineering 08-24-2018 02:24 PM

Carrozzeria in Japan "made" Ohlins R&T....it was all Ohlins internals so it's more like assembled. They were serviceable here in the states without issue. I do not know where they are made now or if Carrozzeria still assembles any sets. They've gone through a few changes and appear to be of slightly better quality then they were in the mid to late 2000s (which was still quite good). There was some internet drama in those days but much of it was clever posturing from a few suspension shops. The issue I have with them now is the standard spring rates for BRZ but we have offered them with customized spring rates.

Anyway to the original poster...my advice is to drive the car stock first. :) Yeah your going to want some front negative camber and the car looks better with a mild drop. But figure out your goals and what you want to improve before jumping in. Maybe try an auto-x fully stock.

- Andrew

MrClean614 08-24-2018 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3125230)
Carrozzeria in Japan "made" Ohlins R&T....it was all Ohlins internals so it's more like assembled. They were serviceable here in the states without issue. I do not know where they are made now or if Carrozzeria still assembles any sets. They've gone through a few changes and appear to be of slightly better quality then they were in the mid to late 2000s (which was still quite good). There was some internet drama in those days but much of it was clever posturing from a few suspension shops. The issue I have with them now is the standard spring rates for BRZ but we have offered them with customized spring rates.

Anyway to the original poster...my advice is to drive the car stock first. :) Yeah your going to want some front negative camber and the car looks better with a mild drop. But figure out your goals and what you want to improve before jumping in. Maybe try an auto-x fully stock.

- Andrew

Good information and advice, thanks Andrew.

Yeah, I do plan exercise the car in various driving conditions but I’ve driven it enough to know that I would like to dial out the factory understeer. A sportier alignment is not a bad idea. May start with Eibach springs and alignment, then start looking at sway bars.

I had researched and purchased a set of Ohlins R&T coilovers for a previous car but ended up selling the car (and the coilovers) before installing them. Not against other proven setups for the twins.

Appreciate all the input from those with experience.

Last Lemming Alive 08-24-2018 11:59 PM

Easiest solution:

RCE Yellows + Sachs dampers from your PP

I have it, it works - very well.

MrClean614 08-25-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Lemming Alive (Post 3125462)
Easiest solution:

RCE Yellows + Sachs dampers from your PP

I have it, it works - very well.

I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?

Vital 08-25-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean614 (Post 3125574)
I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?

They are 45% stiffer compared to stock springs if im not mistaken. They have 4.5k rate front and rear.

Last Lemming Alive 08-25-2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean614 (Post 3125574)
I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?

.

I think they feel about 5% stiffer than stock but that is butt dyno
numbers.

Last Lemming Alive 08-25-2018 01:40 PM

Here is a pic

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...5010592C0.jpeg

http://https://flic.kr/p/29kKH75

MrClean614 08-25-2018 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Lemming Alive (Post 3125582)
.

I think they feel about 5% stiffer than stock but that is butt dyno
numbers.

Well sure, as long as it’s calibrated within the last year... :thumbup:

MrClean614 08-25-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Lemming Alive (Post 3125615)

That’s just what I’m looking for in terms of drop (OEM+). :w00t:

Nice!

And thanks LLA!

Wait do you have different tires on your stock wheels?

Last Lemming Alive 08-25-2018 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean614 (Post 3125638)
That’s just what I’m looking for in terms of drop (OEM+). :w00t:

Nice!

And thanks LLA!

Wait do you have different tires on your stock wheels?

Same size tire as it came with but Michelin pilot super sports

MrClean614 08-25-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Lemming Alive (Post 3125657)
Same size tire as it came with but Michelin pilot super sports

Makes sense and yes I can see a visual difference (beefier sidewall).

In what ways does it change driving?

Imagine less tail happy antics traded for increased grip and precision?

Last Lemming Alive 08-25-2018 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean614 (Post 3125702)
Makes sense and yes I can see a visual difference (beefier sidewall).

In what ways does it change driving?

Imagine less tail happy antics traded for increased grip and precision?

Yeah, that basically sums it up. Better ride quality too over the Primacy tires. So take that into account if just changing springs and not tires.

IMO the ride height is as it should have come from the factory. It looks right, and not like someone lowered their car.

Decep 08-25-2018 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrClean614 (Post 3125574)
I like it (K.I.S.).

Got photos?

Saw the drop is 20mm (~0.8”).

How do the spring rates compare to factory springs?

I had them (RCE Yellow) for a few thousand miles, they're quite a bit stiffer than stock and its VERY noticeable if you drive on crappy pavement/highways. On smooth roads you won't notice a difference. Ex. around Oakland area i wasn't a fan.. around North Bay highways they rode like a dream. I was getting catapulted out of my seat daily lol. Ended up going to softer 2017 springs on my 2013. FWIW i am on the sachs PP dampers.

Last Lemming Alive 08-26-2018 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3125763)
I had them (RCE Yellow) for a few thousand miles, they're quite a bit stiffer than stock and its VERY noticeable if you drive on crappy pavement/highways. On smooth roads you won't notice a difference. Ex. around Oakland area i wasn't a fan.. around North Bay highways they rode like a dream. I was getting catapulted out of my seat daily lol. Ended up going to softer 2017 springs on my 2013. FWIW i am on the sachs PP dampers.

Were you on stock tires?

I believe the softer sidewall of the PSS tires with the stiffer RCE springs netted me only a slighter stiffer ride overall. And our roads here a a patchwork of uneven crap.


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