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FewTooManyBeers 07-21-2018 01:48 PM

Headlight Question Spec-D vs Winjet
 
So I'm looking to upgrade Taillights and Headlights on my 15 FRS. For most part for the Taillights I will be going with Valenti Sequential Red (Red Edition). Since there aren't that many Taillight options. It's either BuddyClub or Valenti's

Now for the Headlights I found 2 brands/models of Headlights, however I don't know much about Spec-D Pros/Cons or Winjet Pros/Cons when it comes to Headlight department.

Setup #1: Winjet JDM (Black) + 8K HID Kit

Setup #2: Spec-D Gloss Black Boomerang + 10K L RTX HID Kit

Any suggestions which setup to run. From my understanding Setup #2 has more "options?" regarding the way you wire the lights.

Thank you in advance.

Cothman4Life 07-21-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3112890)
So I'm looking to upgrade my Taillights and Headlights. For most part for the Taillights I will be going with Valenti Sequential Red (Red Edition). Since there aren't that many Taillight options. It's either BuddyClub or Valenti's

Now for the Headlights I found 2 brands/models of Headlights, however I don't know much about Spec-D Pros/Cons or Winjet Pros/Cons when it comes to Headlight department.

Setup #1: Winjet JDM (Black) + 8K HID Kit

Setup #2: Spec-D Gloss Black Boomerang + 10K L RTX HID Kit

Any suggestions which setup to run. From my understanding Setup #2 has more "options?" regarding the way you wire the lights.

Thank you in advance.

What car do you currently own? Frs/BRZ/86 ?

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FewTooManyBeers 07-21-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cothman4Life (Post 3112891)
What car do you currently own? Frs/BRZ/86 ?

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Updated question. I got a 2015 FRS but all in all it's a same car, no?

Cothman4Life 07-21-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3112892)
Updated question. I got a 2015 FRS but all in all it's a same car, no?

Surprisingly not. As we speak I'm soldering in wire from the OEM plug into the spec D plug for them to fit on my 2017 Toyota 86, the spec d headlights are a plug in play with the frs but NOT the brz or the 86 so you will be fine with your frs! I wanted to make sure what model you had before you made the same mistake as me if you had an 86 and it wasn't plug and play.

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FewTooManyBeers 07-21-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cothman4Life (Post 3112893)
Surprisingly not. As we speak I'm soldering in wire from the OEM plug into the spec D plug for them to fit on my 2017 Toyota 86, the spec d headlights are a plug in play with the frs but NOT the brz or the 86 so you will be fine with your frs! I wanted to make sure what model you had before you made the same mistake as me if you had an 86 and it wasn't plug and play.

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Hmm, that's beyond odd. I mean it's the same car, with same motor. the 2017 however do have newer headlights then the older generation. The Spec-D I mention in the post said to fit 2013+ FRS so till 2016 when I believe Scion died out.

Cothman4Life 07-21-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3112895)
Hmm, that's beyond odd. I mean it's the same car, with same motor. the 2017 however do have newer headlights then the older generation. The Spec-D I mention in the post said to fit 2013+ FRS so till 2016 when I believe Scion died out.

Yes so the spec d will plug and play with your car and can have the boomerang wired the way you would like. And for your original question on my red 86 I'm running the red edition valentis and gloss black spec d and they look amazing. If you don't get HID for the spec d it'll be a blueish tint boomerang with a white light.

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FewTooManyBeers 07-21-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cothman4Life (Post 3112896)
Yes so the spec d will plug and play with your car and can have the boomerang wired the way you would like. And for your original question on my red 86 I'm running the red edition valentis and gloss black spec d and they look amazing. If you don't get HID for the spec d it'll be a blueish tint boomerang with a white light.

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So Spec-D's or Winjet? If I was going with Spec-D I would get the 10K L (Bluish Purple light). Plus I would get this done by a shop, I sadly don't have any tools and I'm also colour blind (YBR) so working with wires isn't recommended.

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They are both considered cheap aftermarket headlights with time the UV will eat up the outer clear coat on both but in terms of performance the Spec-D's are probably the worst thing out there unless retrofitted with the Winjets being better but not OEM quality
- Someone else's opinion on Spec-D's

Cothman4Life 07-21-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3112899)
So Spec-D's or Winjet? If I was going with Spec-D I would get the 10K L (Bluish Purple light). Plus I would get this done by a shop, I sadly don't have any tools and I'm also colour blind (YBR) so working with wires isn't recommended.

- Someone else's opinion on Spec-D's

I really like the spec d lights. You can protect it from the UV by just putting waxes on top on the housing to protect it.

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FewTooManyBeers 07-21-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cothman4Life (Post 3112902)
I really like the spec d lights. You can protect it from the UV by just putting waxes on top on the housing to protect it.

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I mean everyone has there own Opinion, regarding anything in life. I seen a handful of people use SPEC-D's so thats why I also considered Winjet's to be a bit different.

Ultimately I could save myself around $400 CAD and just get something like Morimoto Bi-Xenon HID conversation Kit 5.5K. I can just have a shop (smoke) the headlights a bit and swap stock crap to HID. Not as fancy as a full headlight ASSY but it is what it is LOL.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 07-22-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3112930)
I mean everyone has there own Opinion, regarding anything in life. I seen a handful of people use SPEC-D's so thats why I also considered Winjet's to be a bit different.

Ultimately I could save myself around $400 CAD and just get something like Morimoto Bi-Xenon HID conversation Kit 5.5K. I can just have a shop (smoke) the headlights a bit and swap stock crap to HID. Not as fancy as a full headlight ASSY but it is what it is LOL.


I can personally vouch for the winjets but not with a 8k HID, 5000k is what I used to match it as best as possible with the LED DRLS.


Do you actually want those 8000k and 10000k colors?

FewTooManyBeers 07-22-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3113147)
I can personally vouch for the winjets but not with a 8k HID, 5000k is what I used to match it as best as possible with the LED DRLS.


Do you actually want those 8000k and 10000k colors?

I never owned a car with HID's, the 2 vehicles I owned in my lifetime (that includes the FRS) are all Halogens. Personally I don't know what 8K would be compared to 5K. I can assume the 10K based on the description are the Blue/Purple lights I see on cars from time to time, and I guess it looks nice, however practicality wise... who knows?

One big bummer to be quite honest with you is the lack of Fog lights, my 1st car had them and it made a world of difference because they actually shine down low.

With that said whats your opinion on the Winjets? Also, I can't purchase 5K from FT86 Motorsports (Canadian dealer who buys from FT86SF...???) they only sell 3K, 4.3K, 6K and 8K

FRSBRZGT86FAN 07-22-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FewTooManyBeers (Post 3113152)
I never owned a car with HID's, the 2 vehicles I owned in my lifetime (that includes the FRS) are all Halogens. Personally I don't know what 8K would be compared to 5K. I can assume the 10K based on the description are the Blue/Purple lights I see on cars from time to time, and I guess it looks nice, however practicality wise... who knows?

One big bummer to be quite honest with you is the lack of Fog lights, my 1st car had them and it made a world of difference because they actually shine down low.

With that said whats your opinion on the Winjets? Also, I can't purchase 5K from FT86 Motorsports (Canadian dealer who buys from FT86SF...???) they only sell 3K, 4.3K, 6K and 8K


I HIGHLY suggest you see the colors in person on some cars at a car meet or the like imho 4500k-6000k is where you want to stay in the color range. Anything outside of that seems oddly colored and slightly ricey. My Friend has 6000ks on his winjets and they also look nice. I personally like an OEM look and having the colors match, especially when my car has essentially a full exterior led conversion and the colors of the LEDS at 5000k-6000k.


As for it's build quality they fit perfectly and are plug and play, it uses a simple H7 bulb, so any h7 HID kit will fit. Its best to install the HID kit when the headlights are out of the car, its way way easier to install in fact. Also either get extra 3m VHB or some short length self tapping screws and you can mount the HID ballasts right to the back of the headlight.


Long term though occasionally after a very humid and rainy day they may get some condensation but it goes away like most aftermarket headlights once the headlights are on. In the future I plan to do a D2S retrofit and redo the sealant anyway so that won't be an issue, plus I've owned them for at least 3 years now. Also with HIDs in these housings you have to be super sure to aim them properly to not blind people, I used a simple aiming technique using a wall and tape, a simple method I found on the internet


Here are what they look like on my car with the 5ks from diode dynamics, it's from way back when i mounted the ballasts in an odd position:

https://i.imgur.com/KMWBLU1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BClGSAs.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/5QfyGZM.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/pN2u8Sp.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/EDMGsQH.jpg


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