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Derrickchai39 07-26-2012 10:59 PM

FR-S alarm system
 
When you guys were buying your FR-S did you think it was a requirement from the dealership?

What do you guys think?
Any aftermarket recommendations?

Mo707 07-27-2012 05:13 AM

The dealership told me they don't have an alarm for the car yet and they might not even make it for it. Not gunna wait around for something that might not come out. For now i bought a cheap $300 alarm system getting installed next week. Better safe than sorry.
I plan on upgrading later.
I hear viper is good alarm.

Derrickchai39 07-27-2012 11:18 AM

I know they have the ignition start prevention system with the specific chip in the keys for your car. But my girlfriend the other day went to one of her grandparent's friend who knew how to copy these keys for less than 100$ with a machine. I doubt that just having that system would keep thieves away. I was told by my sales rep that Toyota came out with this on all their cArs starting from 2008. But did that stop any thieves from taking toyotas from then till now? What do you guys think!

Rossman 07-27-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Derrickchai39 (Post 341998)
I was told by my sales rep that Toyota came out with this on all their cArs starting from 2008.

It's not just Toyota. Cars are required by law to be sold with immobilizers now (at least in Canada). I am sure they can be easily bypassed if you are motivated, worst case, just put the car up on a flatbed, problem solved.

moniz 07-27-2012 05:39 PM

For the petty car theives the immobilizer is more than enough since these guys are looking for easy targets. For the pro car theif, all an alarm does is slow them down a bit. If their pros and they want your car, they will steal it. It's the smash and grab guys you really need to worry about. Keep valuables out of site and you automaticly reduce your odds of those type of break in.

emeraldprincess 07-27-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by moniz (Post 342831)
For the petty car theives the immobilizer is more than enough since these guys are looking for easy targets. For the pro car theif, all an alarm does is slow them down a bit. If their pros and they want your car, they will steal it. It's the smash and grab guys you really need to worry about. Keep valuables out of site and you automaticly reduce your odds of those type of break in.

Agreed, those smash and grab folks are fast. I don't leave anything out in the open.

TRD_86 07-27-2012 09:07 PM

At least having an alarm w/red light flashing is 50% chance better than nothing !
I will try to install ALARM on mine asap. The FRS/BRZ/86 will be on the hottest list. My total cost now at ~ $29,000 !

Shagaliscious 07-27-2012 09:15 PM

Just install a flashing red light on your dash. They will think you have an alarm.

Derrickchai39 07-28-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 343258)
Just install a flashing red light on your dash. They will think you have an alarm.

That is actually a good idea. I shall install a red light somewhere and label it "Unbreakable" or something catchy

kendalldwhite 07-28-2012 01:46 PM

lol bad idea that just gives them a reason to break something lol funnny tho

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Originally Posted by Derrickchai39 (Post 344190)
That is actually a good idea. I shall install a red light somewhere and label it "Unbreakable" or something catchy


Lonewolf 07-28-2012 06:09 PM

Scion Security is not something that I've seen on the future FRS options/accessories sheet. Are there any dealers or insiders who know if it will be offered for next year?

Derrickchai39 07-28-2012 06:33 PM

My dealership was saying something about rebate warranty, alarm system not included.. No idea what that meant shouldve asked him

whataboutbob 01-06-2013 03:18 PM

This thread seems to have died off, so I'll give it a bump with my question.

I need an new alarm for my Tacoma. The aftermarket one I had installed in 98 when I bought it has 1 of 2 controllers dead and I can't get a replacement.

I'm looking for a mid-range unit that has a motion sensor, starter kill, and can do power locks. Anything else beyond that is icing on the cake.

Anyone have some good suggestions for a unit?

wbradley 01-06-2013 03:23 PM

Whatever is on sale and does the job from Best Buy etc.
Too bad there was no dealer option. I did order the alarm from the dealer for my xB. Basically there is a flashing LED and stickers on the windows. It could easily be "faked" but all that means is the robber will smash your window and not run after there is no howl.

Subie 01-06-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derrickchai39 (Post 341998)
I know they have the ignition start prevention system with the specific chip in the keys for your car. But my girlfriend the other day went to one of her grandparent's friend who knew how to copy these keys for less than 100$ with a machine. I doubt that just having that system would keep thieves away. I was told by my sales rep that Toyota came out with this on all their cArs starting from 2008. But did that stop any thieves from taking toyotas from then till now? What do you guys think!

Toyota has been using chipped immobilizer keys for a lot longer than that.

marky 01-22-2013 12:06 PM

Still figuring out this alarm thing on my frs that toyota dealer installed..do I have to activate it? I read the manual and says has to be activated by scion dealer but they told me thats already installed and has the low jack thing were its disables the engine/ecu ect..

When I lock the door with the remote and
wait like a min then I open the car with the key and the alarm wont beep/go off..also tried like pushing/bang on the windows and no alarm goes off..this have like motion alarm ?

Seems like its not activated and only locks/opens door/trunk and panic alarm beeps if I hold the panic button down..

bdanisi 01-22-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 681544)
Still figuring out this alarm thing on my frs that toyota dealer installed..do I have to activate it? I read the manual and says has to be activated by scion dealer but they told me thats already installed and has the low jack thing were its disables the engine/ecu ect..

When I lock the door with the remote and
wait like a min then I open the car with the key and the alarm wont beep/go off..also tried like pushing/bang on the windows and no alarm goes off..this have like motion alarm ?

Seems like its not activated and only locks/opens door/trunk and panic alarm beeps if I hold the panic button down..

You should try locking it with the windows down then opening the car door from the inside to see if that trips the alarm. I doubt this car has some sort of Window banging sensor lol

Burninator 01-22-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 681544)
Still figuring out this alarm thing on my frs that toyota dealer installed..do I have to activate it? I read the manual and says has to be activated by scion dealer but they told me thats already installed and has the low jack thing were its disables the engine/ecu ect..

When I lock the door with the remote and
wait like a min then I open the car with the key and the alarm wont beep/go off..also tried like pushing/bang on the windows and no alarm goes off..this have like motion alarm ?

Seems like its not activated and only locks/opens door/trunk and panic alarm beeps if I hold the panic button down..

If you just have a LoJack installed, it is generally only activated when you file a police report if your car is stolen and the police get involved:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoJack#How_it_works

There is an upgraded version that sends you alerts if your car is moved without a paired keyfob nearby though (although I've read that it even can have lot of false positives sometimes if your keyfob isn't working right or has a weak battery, etc.).

EK_Golfer 01-22-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 681544)
Still figuring out this alarm thing on my frs that toyota dealer installed..do I have to activate it? I read the manual and says has to be activated by scion dealer but they told me thats already installed and has the low jack thing were its disables the engine/ecu ect..

When I lock the door with the remote and
wait like a min then I open the car with the key and the alarm wont beep/go off..also tried like pushing/bang on the windows and no alarm goes off..this have like motion alarm ?

Seems like its not activated and only locks/opens door/trunk and panic alarm beeps if I hold the panic button down..

Have the dealership look at it. My alarm was from Toyota as well, it has vibration sensors which will give 3 horn blasts when it feels vibration. The full alarm will only go off if a door or window is breached. The dealership should be able to adjust your sensitivity.

marky 01-22-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bdanisi (Post 681882)
You should try locking it with the windows up then opening the car door from the inside to see if that trips the alarm. I doubt this car has some sort of Window banging sensor lol

Yeah I tried that even locked myself inside with windows down and locked it with the lock button on the key and waited a min or so then open the car and nothing..no sound alarm..


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Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 681932)
Have the dealership look at it. My alarm was from Toyota as well, it has vibration sensors which will give 3 horn blasts when it feels vibration. The full alarm will only go off if a door or window is breached. The dealership should be able to adjust your sensitivity.

Can I go to any toyota/scion? Or has to be the same one I got my car from? Dont like to drive that dealer due to its a bit far and I have a dealer closer to me...

Also can I adjust/set it myself ? Or has to be done by dealer only?

Thanks

EK_Golfer 01-22-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 681977)
Can I go to any toyota/scion? Or has to be the same one I got my car from? Dont like to drive that dealer due to its a bit far and I have a dealer closer to me...

Also can I adjust/set it myself ? Or has to be done by dealer only?

Thanks

Each dealership contracts their own alarm people so it's probably easier to go back to the same dealer, especially if it sounds like the wiring is not quite right. I don't have enough experience with alarm wiring so I didn't bother looking at it myself, plus I don't know where they put my vibration sensor etc.

marky 01-22-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 682805)
Each dealership contracts their own alarm people so it's probably easier to go back to the same dealer, especially if it sounds like the wiring is not quite right. I don't have enough experience with alarm wiring so I didn't bother looking at it myself, plus I don't know where they put my vibration sensor etc.

Yeah have to go back to same dealer.. not feeling it over that dealer :thumbdown:

Lonewolf 01-23-2013 12:22 AM

So the FRS actually does come with a factory alarm that is simply deactivated? Why isn't this anywhere on the website?

I have heard this before, but have not seen any evidence to support the notion. Can anyone confirm this?

86 FRS 01-23-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 683008)
So the FRS actually does come with a factory alarm that is simply deactivated? Why isn't this anywhere on the website?

I have heard this before, but have not seen any evidence to support the notion. Can anyone confirm this?

i doubt it. i know for sure that it has a immobilzer pre installed but not alarm.

EK_Golfer 01-23-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 683008)
So the FRS actually does come with a factory alarm that is simply deactivated? Why isn't this anywhere on the website?

I have heard this before, but have not seen any evidence to support the notion. Can anyone confirm this?

No, the alarm is definitely an add on as I had to bring my car back to the dealership to get it installed.

marky 01-23-2013 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 683077)
No, the alarm is definitely an add on as I had to bring my car back to the dealership to get it installed.

yeah have to go back... not feeling that dealer after they rob me..well lessoned learned :slap:

you have like the motion sensitive alarm ? mine do beep if i lock the doors with the key button and im inside and wait like a min and bounce around the seat and even open the door and no alarm goes off:iono:... cant wait to go back to the dealer tomorrow if they call me in:bs: just want my alarm fixed/ re work my tint and get the F%$* out there and never come back:burnrubber:

did it take long to get the alarm fixed ?

86 FRS 01-23-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 683092)
yeah have to go back... not feeling that dealer after they rob me..well lessoned learned :slap:

you have like the motion sensitive alarm ? mine do beep if i lock the doors with the key button and im inside and wait like a min and bounce around the seat and even open the door and no alarm goes off:iono:... cant wait to go back to the dealer tomorrow if they call me in:bs: just want my alarm fixed/ re work my tint and get the F%$* out there and never come back:burnrubber:

did it take long to get the alarm fixed ?

dealer installed my alarm for 1hour 30min. everything works well. my alarm gives u also a beep signal, after locking doors, after 3-5 minutes it gives u a fast 6 honk sound (lol hard to explain), just a signal that my car is fully locked and alarm activated. its like if i dont hear that sound, that means i forgot to locked/alarmed the door.

Mo707 01-23-2013 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 86 FRS (Post 683114)
dealer installed my alarm for 1hour 30min. everything works well. my alarm gives u also a beep signal, after locking doors, after 3-5 minutes it gives u a fast 6 honk sound (lol hard to explain), just a signal that my car is fully locked and alarm activated. its like if i dont hear that sound, that means i forgot to locked/alarmed the door.

My sisters friend has it. I find it extremely annoying. Haha
And it always makes me think someone hit it so I always run out in my boxers and a shot gun... :P

Carbon420 01-23-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 342236)
It's not just Toyota. Cars are required by law to be sold with immobilizers now (at least in Canada). I am sure they can be easily bypassed if you are motivated, worst case, just put the car up on a flatbed, problem solved.

Parts of Canada maybe but not here.


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EK_Golfer 01-23-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 683092)
yeah have to go back... not feeling that dealer after they rob me..well lessoned learned :slap:

you have like the motion sensitive alarm ? mine do beep if i lock the doors with the key button and im inside and wait like a min and bounce around the seat and even open the door and no alarm goes off:iono:... cant wait to go back to the dealer tomorrow if they call me in:bs: just want my alarm fixed/ re work my tint and get the F%$* out there and never come back:burnrubber:

did it take long to get the alarm fixed ?

My alarm fix was quick, maybe 15 minutes.
I tested that too- sat in my car and locked the car with the key in the "off" position. If I then open the door or even start the car, the alarm will go off. BUT, if I lock the car AFTER I turn the key to the "on" position so that the radio functions etc. then I can unlock or start the car without the alarm going off.

marky 01-23-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 683599)
My alarm fix was quick, maybe 15 minutes.
I tested that too- sat in my car and locked the car with the key in the "off" position. If I then open the door or even start the car, the alarm will go off. BUT, if I lock the car AFTER I turn the key to the "on" position so that the radio functions etc. then I can unlock or start the car without the alarm going off.

I see.. thats what the guy said when I called them yesterday that it will be a quick fix and im out..then when I got there they gave me a BS that I need an apointment..drove all the way there for nothing..waste of gas and time.. today they suppose to call me and get that alarm set up right. . Not even sure if the alarm is even installed in the first place only thing that works are the buttons on the key to open/close door and pop trunk..also get my expensive window tint re worked..:mad0259: not sure if alarm/tint can be done in one day.. just want my things done and over with and never go back to that dealer again.. services are rushed and not right..

Speedy000 01-23-2013 12:21 PM

meh ive owned alarms on my two previous cars and both still got broken into. smash n grab people dont care about honking horns. and any pro car theif who really wants the car will get it anyway. ive given up on alarms just keep things out of sight and dont park in shady places. every time i hear an alarm in a parking lot i just assume its someones annoying alarm giving off a false alarm. and if it was a real thief how many people would go out of their way to go see whats up?

marky 01-23-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy000 (Post 683681)
meh ive owned alarms on my two previous cars and both still got broken into. smash n grab people dont care about honking horns. and any pro car theif who really wants the car will get it anyway. ive given up on alarms just keep things out of sight and dont park in shady places. every time i hear an alarm in a parking lot i just assume its someones annoying alarm giving off a false alarm. and if it was a real thief how many people would go out of their way to go see whats up?

Yeah true..just keep your nice belonging out of site and dont park in bad areas... always keep an out for spotters.. knew some people that got car/truck stolen not smash and grab run..

wrxgoose 01-23-2013 01:28 PM

verizon has a camera that i can put on my deck (3rd floor) that will connect to my computer. really should get one. i think getting their license plate # or good visual of their vehicle would be more important than scaring them off.

also, isn't there a way to match your phone or a website with a way to immobilize your car, if it's stolen? other than lo-jack, i mean

bryan06 03-14-2013 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EK_Golfer (Post 683599)
My alarm fix was quick, maybe 15 minutes.
I tested that too- sat in my car and locked the car with the key in the "off" position. If I then open the door or even start the car, the alarm will go off. BUT, if I lock the car AFTER I turn the key to the "on" position so that the radio functions etc. then I can unlock or start the car without the alarm going off.

Is this service at the dealership free??

Mr.Corvus 03-14-2013 11:45 AM

My FR-S apparently rolled off the truck with an alarm, but I had to pay to have it activated. It's the standard alarm noise and engine killswitch setup, with a flashing blue light under the dash. If you park on the street a lot (e.g. in your neighborhood, at work, etc) or don't park in a garage, I would suggest springing for one. Not only does it deter the petty thieves when they see the alarm light/stickers, but mine apparently came with a certificate that pretty much guarantees a discount on my insurance due to the killswitch for the engine.
Now the only thing I'm paranoid about is someone dinging/keying the car :|

EK_Golfer 03-14-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan06 (Post 792674)
Is this service at the dealership free??

Yep, no charge. They don't even include it as normal maintenance so I didn't have to wait with the other people. Just call the dealership to make sure their alarm person is available.

GNS 03-14-2013 12:26 PM

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Possibly slightly NSFW

danielv 03-14-2013 12:58 PM

^^ LMAO

SilentAngel 03-14-2013 01:29 PM

I've thought about getting a Viper alarm or something along those lines. My problem is i don't want to carry around a big remote as well as the "smart" key. Just makes for more weight and taking up alot of pocket space. Maybe i'll check on those Alarms that work through the Smartphones again.


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