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BRZ.604 06-23-2018 04:32 AM

Velox Camber Plates Clunking noise
 
Does any with similar suspension set like mine Ohlins and Velox camber plates clunking noise over bumps?

Just to confirmed that it is not the coilovers that making the noise. With the stock top mount it does not make the noise.

Been disassemble and reassemble numerous of times to figure the issue but could not understand why the camber plates is making that noise.

My suspecting is the spherical bearings are the fault but this plates are brand new and does not even have more the 100km on it.

If anyone having the same issue please share.

Thank You.

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norcalpb 06-23-2018 03:59 PM

Yup that sounds like a bad spherical bearing. The bearing itself is moving vertically in its housing by mere mms but it makes a ton of noise.

My camber plates lasted 80k miles before failure, so if you don’t have have 60 miles on them I’d send them back.

BRZ.604 06-24-2018 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3102482)
Yup that sounds like a bad spherical bearing. The bearing itself is moving vertically in its housing by mere mms but it makes a ton of noise.

My camber plates lasted 80k miles before failure, so if you don’t have have 60 miles on them I’d send them back.

I contact ft86speedfactory but they said they can't see any movement to the bearings so they can't do warranty on it :bonk: . It's just sad cause that plates are brand new and the bearings already failed on it. Your camber plate is velox as well?

norcalpb 06-24-2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZ.604 (Post 3102620)
I contact ft86speedfactory but they said they can't see any movement to the bearings so they can't do warranty on it :bonk: . It's just sad cause that plates are brand new and the bearings already failed on it. Your camber plate is velox as well?

The bearings will only move 1mm when failed so that makes sense they don’t see it, doesn’t make sense with them judging the condition based on that.

I had HVT camber plates. The bearings were $30 each.

strat61caster 06-24-2018 02:41 AM

Rule out the swaybar endlinks being loose before spending money imho but it's probably one of the two.

RJasonKlein 06-24-2018 04:18 AM

Have you verified that the nut on the top of the shock shaft is fully and properly torqued? In my opinion it’s highly unlikely that the bearing has failed on an virtually new piece, but if the nut is not properly toqued and you continue to drive on it you will damage it.

RJasonKlein 06-24-2018 04:21 AM

This video may give you some insight:

https://youtu.be/2bab6x47CSs

VerusEric 06-24-2018 10:38 AM

You're welcome to send them back to us so we can look at them but they are the same bearings we have used for the entire life of this product. We have not been engraving the camber plates "Velox" for at least 9 months as well. Diagnosing the noise or what is happening through youtube videos is impossible.

The camber plates are very simple parts; there is not much to make noise. Keep in mind with the OEM top hat, the rubber isolates and damps a lot of noise that could have already been there; but does not make its way to the cabin as the connection is not solid. When you swap to something that is solid aluminum with no compliance spherical bearings, noises are translated to the chassis significantly more.

Feel free to e-mail us if you want to take us up on the offer of sending them back to us. We'll check the bearings for movement and we can install brand new bearings if you'd like.

Thanks,
Eric

wbradley 06-24-2018 10:53 AM

I have a set of MP20's with what appear to be MSI camber plates that were pre-installed on the struts when I bought the units. They were 6 months old and lightly used.

I get a lot of clunk, especially on the driver side.

My suspicion is I will probably need to replace bushings in the top mounts to fixs this but I won't mess with that stuff until the car is off the road for winter. Some play between ball and bushings. So long as it isnt unsafe or affect performance I will live with it. Also get creaking in same area sometimes when I turn steering wheel far to one side and or go over really steep grades or bumps. Probably bushings on spherical bearing can be replaced.

BRZ.604 06-24-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3102660)
Rule out the swaybar endlinks being loose before spending money imho but it's probably one of the two.

That's the first thing I did when I heard the noise. I removed the sway links out completely. Noise still there.

norcalpb 06-24-2018 03:42 PM

Here’s what my bearings sounded like when they started making noise dude to axial play in the spherical bearings:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c6kAdF...ature=youtu.be

Ultramaroon 06-24-2018 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VerusEric (Post 3102699)
We have not been engraving the camber plates "Velox" for at least 9 months as well.

Rare collectibles.

BRZ.604 06-24-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3102764)
Here’s what my bearings sounded like when they started making noise dude to axial play in the spherical bearings:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c6kAdF...ature=youtu.be

Thanks for posting your video, what I will do is put the camber plates to my stock shocks and see if the noise is still there.

BRZ.604 06-24-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VerusEric (Post 3102699)
You're welcome to send them back to us so we can look at them but they are the same bearings we have used for the entire life of this product. We have not been engraving the camber plates "Velox" for at least 9 months as well. Diagnosing the noise or what is happening through youtube videos is impossible.

The camber plates are very simple parts; there is not much to make noise. Keep in mind with the OEM top hat, the rubber isolates and damps a lot of noise that could have already been there; but does not make its way to the cabin as the connection is not solid. When you swap to something that is solid aluminum with no compliance spherical bearings, noises are translated to the chassis significantly more.

Feel free to e-mail us if you want to take us up on the offer of sending them back to us. We'll check the bearings for movement and we can install brand new bearings if you'd like.

Thanks,
Eric

Hey Eric, thanks for the support. I live in Canada so sending it back and forth will takes to much time. Ft86speedfactory email me the bearing part number so I will get another set and replace it.


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