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cliff 06-20-2018 10:33 AM

Buffer
 
Can anyone recommend a battery or corded buffer?
thanks

Tcoat 06-20-2018 11:38 AM

I have a 20 year old Black and Decker that probably has a couple of thousand hours on it that is still serving well. I am considering retiring it in favour of a rechargeable one though. Not sure it matters what brand it is as long as you get certain features.
Make sure it is a random orbital. Some are really just low speed grinders and only go in circles.


Check the availability and cost of pads. There is nothing worse than getting a tool that you can only buy the needed accessories at one place (and usually at a premium).
Variable speeds are very nice.
Watch carefully for what brand they are. Often an off brand name is the exact same tool as the branded one at half the price.

krayzie 06-20-2018 11:52 AM

This is what I used for years and years (it wasn't mine I borrowed it from a friend):

Ultimate Detailing Machine™ Dual Action Orbital Polisher

https://www.autogeek.net/udm-ultimat...g-machine.html

The BRZ panels are kinda thin so I haven't used a buffer on it, only applying compound by hand.

BTW battery will never beat a proper corded power tool.

Azzudien 06-20-2018 02:14 PM

Agree with krayzie, go with corded, battery is significantly heavier and you will feel that extra weight quickly.

extrashaky 06-20-2018 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 3100994)
BTW battery will never beat a proper corded power tool.

Maybe, but based on the performance I'm getting out of my Milwaukee M18 Fuel tools, I'd be willing to give their polisher the benefit of the doubt if I used buffers. That line of tools is fantastic.

Tcoat 06-20-2018 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 3100994)
This is what I used for years and years (it wasn't mine I borrowed it from a friend):

Ultimate Detailing Machine™ Dual Action Orbital Polisher

https://www.autogeek.net/udm-ultimat...g-machine.html

The BRZ panels are kinda thin so I haven't used a buffer on it, only applying compound by hand.

BTW battery will never beat a proper corded power tool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzudien (Post 3101065)
Agree with krayzie, go with corded, battery is significantly heavier and you will feel that extra weight quickly.

Maybe I should rethink my cordless plan then. I have never used a cordless one but there are some pretty lightweight batteries out there now so I figured they may be easier.
I guess ol' Buffy get's to hang in until her death by natural causes.

Teseo 06-20-2018 03:51 PM

What about Griots?

Tcoat 06-20-2018 04:08 PM

http://guidetodetailing.com/detailin...-buyers-guide/

Tcoat 06-20-2018 04:38 PM

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Ultramaroon 06-20-2018 04:48 PM

Just make sure it's a DA, right angle-type something like what @krayzie mentioned.


Safer than a rotary.

krayzie 06-20-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3101090)
Maybe, but based on the performance I'm getting out of my Milwaukee M18 Fuel tools, I'd be willing to give their polisher the benefit of the doubt if I used buffers. That line of tools is fantastic.

I have a 18V Festool cordless drill and it's fantastic on the field (although it will never beat my corded Ryobi hammer drill from the 80's for real work) but I'm not sure if I want to deal with the extra weight as a DA polisher is already quite heavy. I always remove the product by hand and it's tiring, the machine is only used to apply.

Gunman 06-21-2018 12:52 PM

The porter cable is pretty much the standard:

https://www.portercable.com/products...olisher/7424xp

extrashaky 06-21-2018 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzudien (Post 3101065)
Agree with krayzie, go with corded, battery is significantly heavier and you will feel that extra weight quickly.

I was curious about this, so I looked up some weights on the manufacturers' websites to see for myself. There were three corded polishers mentioned in that buyer's guide Tcoat posted:

Porter Cable 7424XP - 5-1/2 lbs
Meguiar’s G110v2 - 5.5 lbs.
Griot’s Garage - 7.73 lbs.

Here are three cordless polishers:
M18 FUEL™ 7” Variable Speed Polisher - 6.4 lbs w/ 5.0 Battery
Ryobi 18V ONE+™ ORBITAL BUFFER - 4.2 lbs (not indicated whether that's with or without battery)
Makita 18V Cordless 5" Random Orbit Sander - 3.6 lbs (with battery)

So whether it's corded or cordless doesn't seem to be the determining factor in the weight. Although I haven't used any of these myself, I have used grinders quite a bit in my welding, and it seems to me the ergonomics would be similar. With that in mind, NONE of those corded buffers look comfortable at all. They're too heavy and don't seem to be shaped correctly to use one-handed, but there doesn't seem to be any thought at all in the design of the case for the second hand. We had a big 7" grinder at the shop that was designed that way, and despite it being the most powerful grinder we had, nobody would use it because of how unwieldy it was.

Maybe you guys who use them regularly see something else I don't, but from what I'm seeing online the only disadvantage I see in cordless is that the Milwaukee only goes up to 2200 RPM. The two cheap cordless ones both go higher, though, and still seem like they'd be easier to handle than the corded ones.

Tcoat 06-21-2018 01:40 PM

Damnit now I am back to thinking cordless. The Makita was on my shortlist before and it is the lightest.


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