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Jmonty 05-08-2018 01:45 PM

One injured in street racing crash on Marine Drive
 
I hope this wasn't one of us on the forum?
http://www.kptv.com/story/38130458/p...n-marine-drive

Be safe out there

funwheeldrive 05-08-2018 01:51 PM

Watching a FRS street race must be the most boring thing ever.

SCQTT 05-08-2018 02:13 PM

Human nature. Just visited a small historic town that had a marker memorializing a local prominent citizen that was killed by being thrown from his horse while racing his friend......over 100 years ago.

Yes, probably dangerous for participants and observers. Personal responsibility, don't be there unless you can accept the risk.

Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Local old people want people to "keep of their grass"

I'd rather see young people doing this than sitting on the couch getting high, eating Cheetos and playing Call of Duty.

funwheeldrive 05-08-2018 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083753)
Human nature. Just visited a small historic town that had a marker memorializing a local prominent citizen that was killed by being thrown from his horse while racing his friend......over 100 years ago.

Yes, probably dangerous for participants and observers. Personal responsibility, don't be there unless you can accept the risk.

Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Local old people want people to "keep of their grass"

I'd rather see young people doing this than sitting on the couch getting high, eating Cheetos and playing Call of Duty.

There are closed race tracks to have fun with your car. To be honest I wouldn't trust these "racers" around my friends or family. Most of them are probably teenagers who can't understand the consequences of their stupid decisions.

SCQTT 05-08-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 3083762)
There are closed race tracks to have fun with your car. To be honest I wouldn't trust these "racers" around my friends or family. Most of them are probably teenagers who can't understand the consequences of their stupid decisions.


People have been doing this for forever.

If your care about YOUR teenagers you need to teach them situational awareness and how to be wary of ANY dangerous situation and act responsibly.

A safe world can not be mandated or forced by laws.

I don't think there were any innocents walking their baby in a stroller down the sidewalk at that time.

Tracks are great, they are becoming fewer and fewer.

funwheeldrive 05-08-2018 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083765)
People have been doing this for forever.

If your care about YOUR teenagers you need to teach them situational awareness and how to be wary of ANY dangerous situation and act responsibly.

A safe world can not be mandated or forced by laws.

I don't think there were any innocents walking their baby in a stroller down the sidewalk at that time.

Tracks are great, they are becoming fewer and fewer.

Maybe there weren't a ton of pedestrians around that night, but what if a random car drove by at the wrong time? Do you really trust them to be able to brake effectively at those speeds? Hell, the whole reason this thing is a topic is because one of the driver's couldn't control their car and crashed. He is lucky that he only injured himself.

I remember being a teenager. I had great parents, and I'd like to think I'm pretty level headed, but I still did some really stupid shit that could have ruined my life if I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The majority of drivers these days have too much car and not enough skill/experience to be doing this kind of driving on public roads. Look at all the Mustang crashes on yotube. Add high speed racing to the mix and shit like this is bound to happen. And as a result ALL car enthusiasts suffer.

SCQTT 05-08-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 3083779)
Maybe there weren't a ton of pedestrians around that night, but what if a random car drove by at the wrong time? Do you really trust them to be able to brake effectively at those speeds? Hell, the whole reason this thing is a topic is because one of the driver's couldn't control their car and crashed. He is lucky that he only injured himself.

I remember being a teenager. I had great parents, and I'd like to think I'm pretty level headed, but I still did some really stupid shit that could have ruined my life if I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The majority of drivers these days have too much car and not enough skill/experience to be doing this kind of driving on public roads. Look at all the Mustang crashes on yotube. Add high speed racing to the mix and shit like this is bound to happen. And as a result ALL car enthusiasts suffer.

I agree, but what's the solution? The media makes it seem like people are out there killing babies for fun. Its illegal. Enforce the laws.

funwheeldrive 05-08-2018 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083785)
I agree, but what's the solution? The media makes it seem like people are out there killing babies for fun. Its illegal. Enforce the laws.

I never said I had an answer, I was just saying that I don't condone their actions. To be honest I would rather they all stay at home, smoke a bowl, and watch Netflix.

Tcoat 05-08-2018 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083753)
Human nature. Just visited a small historic town that had a marker memorializing a local prominent citizen that was killed by being thrown from his horse while racing his friend......over 100 years ago.

Yes, probably dangerous for participants and observers. Personal responsibility, don't be there unless you can accept the risk.

Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Local old people want people to "keep of their grass"

I'd rather see young people doing this than sitting on the couch getting high, eating Cheetos and playing Call of Duty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083765)
People have been doing this for forever.

If your care about YOUR teenagers you need to teach them situational awareness and how to be wary of ANY dangerous situation and act responsibly.

A safe world can not be mandated or forced by laws.

I don't think there were any innocents walking their baby in a stroller down the sidewalk at that time.

Tracks are great, they are becoming fewer and fewer.


This is a load of bullshit!
This was not some isolated abandoned airstrip or closed roads these were public streets.
There is no need to be racing on the streets and teaching your kids "situational awareness" does not prevent innocents from being killed.
The fact that it has "been going on forever" doesn't make it OK.

arkanist 05-08-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083753)
Human nature. Just visited a small historic town that had a marker memorializing a local prominent citizen that was killed by being thrown from his horse while racing his friend......over 100 years ago.

Yes, probably dangerous for participants and observers. Personal responsibility, don't be there unless you can accept the risk.

Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Local old people want people to "keep of their grass"

I'd rather see young people doing this than sitting on the couch getting high, eating Cheetos and playing Call of Duty.

Because someone died doing this 100 years ago we should keep doing it? And it is better to put the public at risk than to get high and stay home? Aren't you edgy.

Well I will be at home smoking my bowl regardless, hopefully you don't get ran down by a street racer in the meantime.

SCQTT 05-08-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 3083790)
I never said I had an answer, I was just saying that I don't condone their actions. To be honest I would rather they all stay at home, smoke a bowl, and watch Netflix.

That is where the whole society is going.

Racing, all forms of it, originated from human's urge to be competitive. All of this was started in an imperfect setting with some form of danger.

You could twist your ankle or bump into a friend and injure them while racing (running) on the playground.

Young people are stupid, old people are stupid. There are laws, we all break some of them time to time. Cause and effect, teach it. Enforce the laws we have.

I have seen lots and lots of people doing much worse. That does not make this right. but it is happening all over America every night. If it is one of the most dangerous activities going on in your community and you want the police to stop it public opinion can push law enforcement to stop it.

Here, where I live in rural Ohio, our deputies the first priority is to respond to heroin overdoes to protect the EMTs. At this point they is little else they have time for.

Sorta a turbocharged version of the couch, bowl and Netflix scenario.

lantsalot 05-08-2018 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083753)
Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083785)
The media makes it seem like people are out there killing babies for fun.


THEY like to sensationalize, you say?

Tcoat 05-08-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083753)
Human nature. Just visited a small historic town that had a marker memorializing a local prominent citizen that was killed by being thrown from his horse while racing his friend......over 100 years ago.

Yes, probably dangerous for participants and observers. Personal responsibility, don't be there unless you can accept the risk.

Media likes to sensationalize the story for ratings.

Local old people want people to "keep of their grass"

I'd rather see young people doing this than sitting on the couch getting high, eating Cheetos and playing Call of Duty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083810)
That is where the whole society is going.

Racing, all forms of it, originated from human's urge to be competitive. All of this was started in an imperfect setting with some form of danger.

You could twist your ankle or bump into a friend and injure them while racing (running) on the playground.

Young people are stupid, old people are stupid. There are laws, we all break some of them time to time. Cause and effect, teach it. Enforce the laws we have.

I have seen lots and lots of people doing much worse. That does not make this right. but it is happening all over America every night. If it is one of the most dangerous activities going on in your community and you want the police to stop it public opinion can push law enforcement to stop it.

Here, where I live in rural Ohio, our deputies the first priority is to respond to heroin overdoes to protect the EMTs. At this point they is little else they have time for.

Sorta a turbocharged version of the couch, bowl and Netflix scenario.

This is not what you said before.


How old are your kids? you would be fine if the police knocked on your door and said they were killed while spectating or participating in a street race? You would just say "Oh well they knew the risk" and carry on like normal? Only the young and old are stupid? There is a group in the middle that are all perfect?

Leonardo 05-08-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 3083765)
People have been doing this for forever.

If your care about YOUR teenagers you need to teach them situational awareness and how to be wary of ANY dangerous situation and act responsibly.




Yes, people have been doing this forever. I just back from the Big Island. There is a lonely rural stretch of road that racers use in the wee hours of the morning. They are a group of racers, with radios, and people on each end of the stretch of the road. I am not saying that it is legit or the right thing to do. I am just saying; they are not two random cars in the city racing.




Also... This story happens to be a prius, but it could have easily been a racer. How do you teach someone situational awareness if they are in bed?


https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...478949013.html


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