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Originally Posted by Trap63
(Post 3083586)
I think that we are a bit influenced by “Gas Monkey Garage” where we see any kind of modifications that let us to think that US are the Paradise on earth.
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What you can legally do depends for the most part on what state you're in. For example, Gas Monkey Garage (or "Ass Monkeys" as their crazy Asian upholstery lady calls them) is located in Dallas, Texas. Texas has statewide safety inspections and emissions testing in 17 counties, but they're pretty lax compared to some other states. For the old cars the Ass Monkeys build, there are very few rules. They pretty much just have to meet the safety standards, which means they have to have all the correct lighting, be able to stop and not have tires that will explode unexpectedly. If the Ass Monkeys built a NEW car, I'm pretty sure it would still have to be able to pass the OBDII test for emissions to be registered in Dallas.
Other states have their own quirks. In Pennsylvania, you can't remove your doors. There have been lawsuits over Jeeps that came from the factory equipped with removable doors being ticketed because they didn't have the doors on them. In Oregon, if you lift a vehicle higher than a certain height, it has to have mud flaps on it. In Hawaii, your tires can't stick out more than 3/4" past your fenders. In Florida, where I live, there are no inspections and very few rules about what you do to your vehicle beyond federal lighting requirements.
Every state has its own set of tint laws also, and they vary dramatically from state to state. Here's a site that lists the basic requirements in a handy table:
http://tintlaws.com/
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Originally Posted by yurikaze
(Post 3083971)
What I've noticed is that California may have the strictest laws on paper, but you're much less likely to be harassed here while driving a heavily modified car.
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Originally Posted by JeremyR
(Post 3084096)
I feel like California has really strict laws, but they are not that enforced unless you are doing something stupid.
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My understanding of California is that enforcement is handled primarily through inspections. Is this not so? If you have an illegally modified car, you're not going to pass. In states with more lax inspections or no inspections at all, enforcement of safety and nuisance regs would fall to law enforcement officers. I would guess cops in CA don't bother because there's another enforcement structure already in place.
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Originally Posted by HunterGreene
(Post 3083768)
So most "drop in" or "bold on" engine mods are designed to meat CARB standards, since obviously they are the strictest nationwide.
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That's not necessarily true. A few are designed with CARB exemption in mind from the outset, but I'm under the impression most are not. It's an expensive regulatory headache that a manufacturer can just step around by marking it as not for use in California or New York and leaving it up to the user to take the car back to stock for inspections. I have a number of parts on my modified Jeep that are not at all legal for registration in California. I'm pretty sure neither my exhaust nor my intake for my BRZ are CARB exempt, and neither would pass inspection in California.
Many manufacturers have two versions of the parts, a non-CARB version and a more expensive CARB version. The CARB version of the high flow cat on my Jeep is exactly twice the cost of the non-CARB version, despite the fact that they appear to be the exact same part other than the CARB EO imprint. It makes sense. Why pass along the cost of CARB certification to people in other states who didn't vote for it and don't deserve it?
California actually sends lobbyists to other state legislatures to try to get CARB rules adopted in as many states as possible. The reason is that huge difference in price between non-CARB versions and parts with CARB EOs on file. California requires manufacturers to go through the certification process but thinks it's "unfair" to CA citizens to be charged more for it, so they're trying to get other states to adopt their rules to force the manufacturers to just provide one (more expensive) version after all. Fourteen states have already adopted some or all of the CARB bullshit.