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-   -   3M paint sealant VS opti-coat (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)

denverizzles 07-25-2012 04:32 PM

3M paint sealant VS opti-coat
 
Does anyone know what the difference is? Which would you prefer? I can't seem to find a opti-coat detailer in chicago, but have found one that does the 3M paint sealant.

PLEASE HELP!

denverizzles 07-25-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirror Detailing (Post 338102)
3m crap is not even in the same zip code, state, country, continent, hemisphere, planet, etc. as Opti-Coat.

Can you explain the main differences? From what I've researched, opti-coat is permanent and 3M is a wax that must be reapplied.

If I were to choose opti-coat would I still need to wax?

Someone really needs to sticky WTF opti-coat is VS wax, especially for the car cleaning noobs such as myself.:thanks:

denverizzles 07-25-2012 04:56 PM

Just to be clear; is this the correct product?

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html

jarviz 07-25-2012 05:12 PM

My understanding is that Opti-coat is kind of like a permanent wax and keeps the dirt off longer and keeps the car shiny, so you won't necessarily need to wax afterwards, when you do wash. Opti-coat doesn't protect against paint chips, scratches, or rocks. etc

3M i believe protects against paint chips and scratches, it basically protects the paint from damage.

I got both done.

denverizzles 07-25-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 338180)
My understanding is that Opti-coat is kind of like a permanent wax and keeps the dirt off longer and keeps the car shiny, so you won't necessarily need to wax afterwards, when you do wash. Opti-coat doesn't protect against paint chips, scratches, or rocks. etc

3M i believe protects against paint chips and scratches, it basically protects the paint from damage.

I got both done.

which did you apply first? opti-coat or 3M?

ayau 07-25-2012 05:40 PM

you can imagine opticoat as another layer of clear coat that's more durable than OEM clear coats. the only way to remove it is to polish it off.

you'll want a clean surface before applying opticoat to your car's paint. this includes removing all existing wax/sealants.

after opticoat has been applied, you can still wax/seal the car but they won't 'stick' to the opticoat very well. this means that wax/sealants will wear off sooner. the good thing about this is that it makes it harder for dirt to stick to your car's paint.

Filipino Royale 07-25-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 338180)
My understanding is that Opti-coat is kind of like a permanent wax and keeps the dirt off longer and keeps the car shiny, so you won't necessarily need to wax afterwards, when you do wash. Opti-coat doesn't protect against paint chips, scratches, or rocks. etc

3M i believe protects against paint chips and scratches, it basically protects the paint from damage.

I got both done.

Care to share where have yours done?

jarviz 07-25-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by denverizzles (Post 338214)
which did you apply first? opti-coat or 3M?

You have to do the clear bra first then the opticoat... if you apply the opti-coat first, the clear bra won't stick

jarviz 07-25-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Filipino Royale (Post 338269)
Care to share where have yours done?

Just noticed you're from NY - detailersdomain in NJ - those guys did awesome work. If you call them them Jarvis with the FRS referred you. I was just there last week so they should still remember me, hopefully haha.

911fanatic 07-26-2012 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 338180)
My understanding is that Opti-coat is kind of like a permanent wax and keeps the dirt off longer and keeps the car shiny, so you won't necessarily need to wax afterwards, when you do wash. Opti-coat doesn't protect against paint chips, scratches, or rocks. etc

3M i believe protects against paint chips and scratches, it basically protects the paint from damage.

I got both done.

Opti Coat, once cured, is very hard and resistant to scratching. When I say resistant to scratching, I mean from from washing and drying, not from say driving your car into a hedge! The Opti Coat is a permanent sealant. Once applied, the only way to remove it is with abrasion ( polishing ). 3M pain sealant is just that. It will protect the paint from UV damage for 3-4 months before needing re application. There is no paint sealant made that will stop rock chips or scratches. That is where clear bras come in.

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Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 338914)
You have to do the clear bra first then the opticoat... if you apply the opti-coat first, the clear bra won't stick

Not true. The clear bra will indeed stick to the Opti Coat. I just talked to the guys at Optimum today on this as I have an FRS coming in for Opti Coat on Friday and the client wants to clear bra after as well.


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