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Dr. BRZ 04-18-2018 01:58 AM

Which ac delete kit?
 
I'm looking to do the ac delete for the brz, I could only find 2 kits. The oem and raceseng one. I want to hear input from both please. The oem nearly cost $200 and the raceseng nearly cost $400.

22R 04-18-2018 05:38 AM

There is a free button on the panel that will turn it off.....:bonk: Sorry can't resist as I live in South Louisiana where the heat and humidity can vaporize ya ! Best of luck with your project.

22R

nikitopo 04-18-2018 07:38 AM

It is not about closing the A/C with a button, it is more about weight reduction and better cooling. Porsche was adding also lately the option to remove the A/C in the 911 R car and more lately in the 911 Carrera T car.

Personally, I have the factory delete option. The A/C compressor will save most of the weight (~14 lbs). If you want to do it correctly, you should also remove the A/C radiator. You'll have better airflow in the coolant radiator and it'll be easier to keep the temperatures lower. Especially if you are using a lower temperature thermostat ;)


http://i57.tinypic.com/acer5z.jpg

JazzleSAURUS 04-18-2018 10:47 AM

OEM. There is not +$200 worth of benefit from the Raceseng part. I do like their parts, but this is a case of superfluous spending if you go with it.

If you're in a race class where you're hunting ounces at any cost, by all means grab the Raceseng part. Otherwise, that $200 is much better spent elsewhere. Like track time, tires, brake pads, fuel...

weederr33 04-18-2018 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3074153)
It is not about closing the A/C with a button, it is more about weight reduction and better cooling. Porsche was adding also lately the option to remove the A/C in the 911 R car and more lately in the 911 Carrera T car.

Personally, I have the factory delete option. The A/C compressor will save most of the weight (~14 lbs). If you want to do it correctly, you should also remove the A/C radiator. You'll have better airflow in the coolant radiator and it'll be easier to keep the temperatures lower. Especially if you are using a lower temperature thermostat ;)


http://i57.tinypic.com/acer5z.jpg

If only I didn't live in Texas, deleting the AC would be a pretty quick weight reduction mod.

Jonsey 04-18-2018 04:59 PM

I went with the Raceseng kit based on concerns GSpeed had with the factory kit. They may often take the overkill approach, but that's also because they tend to focus on big build racecars and not small scale street car stuff.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=318

SuperTom 04-24-2018 05:54 PM

Just from looks the Raceng would appear to have a lighter design and is made out of aluminum. Is it $200 lighter that is for you to decide. I will be following this as I am strongly considering deleted my AC for weight loss.


But first I got to repair AC in the Vette as I will need one car with good AC when its hot as balls

x808drifter 04-24-2018 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonsey (Post 3074388)
I went with the Raceseng kit based on concerns GSpeed had with the factory kit. They may often take the overkill approach, but that's also because they tend to focus on big build racecars and not small scale street car stuff.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=318

I see all kinds of problems with that test.

A: Outside runout means squat, he should have measured the inner grooves.
Even then....

B: More telling would be to see how much play is in the bearing itself. Wiggle the pulley left and right like checking for a bad wheel bearing.
And finally...

C: A comparison to say the stock pulley on the AC compressor would actually tell you how "crap" the delete is.

nikitopo 04-25-2018 05:59 AM

I confirm that there is a small play on the factory A/C delete pulley. Such kits are usually installed with other track focused changes, like aftermarket lightweight pulley kits. My assumption is that they introduced this play intentionally to support other changes. The play is quite evident to be a design issue and this part was not really intented for small scale street car stuff or daily drivers. Subaru is also building racecars and they have a huge experience to not have a blown motor in the duration of a race.

Timmy_Jones 04-25-2018 09:40 AM

With a delete kit, do you run a smaller belt or do you retain a pulley in the spot it used to exist?

Icecreamtruk 04-25-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 3077288)
With a delete kit, do you run a smaller belt or do you retain a pulley in the spot it used to exist?

Same belt, the delete kit pulley is the same size. It is also a really easy installation, contrary to what it may look like at first, even removing the condenser was easy, 1hour in your driveway with a spanner and you are done.

churchx 04-25-2018 11:02 AM

Removal might cost quite a bit if car is pre-late-2014 and at some point owner will decide to reinstall. As early cars due EU regulations back then expensive gas (under bonnet, sticker 1234yf), at least now for me refill is 400eur. Worth keep in mind if at some point one wants to sell it off and put all stock parts back.

nikitopo 04-25-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 3077288)
With a delete kit, do you run a smaller belt or do you retain a pulley in the spot it used to exist?

Same belt for the factory A/C delete.

nikitopo 04-25-2018 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3077317)
Removal might cost quite a bit if car is pre-late-2014 and at some point owner will decide to reinstall. As early cars due EU regulations back then expensive gas (under bonnet, sticker 1234yf), at least now for me refill is 400eur. Worth keep in mind if at some point one wants to sell it off and put all stock parts back.

I stored the condenser and compressor, but I agree that it would be expensive to put the parts back.


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