next gen 86 reportedly coming
 

Worst translation ever... What did it say?


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2.4l engine, no mention of a turbo

Thanks, sounds good It could use a little bit more


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There isn't really any confirmation of a next gen 86. An engine displacement of 2400cc is not very likely. They are working on engine downsizing on all their models.

yeah who knows how credible kyodo news is but at least this is something

Do the needful.

I read an article recently in evo magazine about how some of the manufacturers are adopting something called "right-sizing" rather than downsizing, as they realize that having a smaller engine doesn't always mean increased fuel efficiency, and while the tuning and such is basically made for the CO2 test, on the roads it's a different story. A lot of people have complained for years about how manufacturers' claimed fuel consumption figures are way optimistic, and apparently it stems from that. Hence this "right-sizing" is meant to address that. So to me this larger displacement doesn't come as a surprise. Paraphrasing here lol

Bullshit is bullshit no matter what the original language it was written in.

From a MotorTrend article: "The Ascent is the first to get Subaru’s new 2.4-liter direct-injection turbocharged flat-four engine, which will show up in other future models. The horizontally opposed Subaru Boxer engine generates 260 horsepower and 277 lb-ft of torque." http://www.motortrend.com/cars/subar...-drive-review/


I wonder if they are contemplating this new powerplant?

There is also talk of reducing the MPG goals here in the US, which might open the door for some larger displacement after years of downsizing




edit - well the "talk" played out, EPA just announced rolling back the Obama era standards

Kyodo news is pretty mainstream, "respected" news in Japan, I'd say. It's kinda like the Associated Press, and whatever you might think about them, they don't typically just blow rumors about this kind of stuff willy-nilly. This looks relatively legit. If so, I'll have my money waiting! This would also murder 86 sales over the next couple years while people wait, I'd imagine. More displacement with same dynamics and still NA? That'd be amazing!

This is all I'm interested in:

I enjoy curving the curve steadily.

Particularly while grounded to the ground, it is nice. :cheers:

This is exactly why I call bullshit on these things. The people that know what they are talking about won't say. No matter how respected a news source they are they can still be mislead by bad sources.
To be clear it isn't the possibility of there being an engine change that I am calling bullshit. It is the fact that ANY news source can report it as truth at this point in time.

Good point. :burnrubber:

Nope. Chuck Testa

Article is 100% accurate. There is already a prototype with this engine running around Japan.

Someone spied it late one night, stopped the driver and talked to them. The driver begged him not to take a photo, but the guy snuck one anyway. I won't tell you his name to hide his identity, but this is 100% legit! See the hood and grill? There is something new and exciting lurking under there!

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Technol...0325_wmain.jpg

All printed news is real!




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They just needed something to write about. By 21 they'll probably be electric. Lol

Yep, several people here in the PNW have seen that also .......:eyebulge:


humfrz

Ok, guys. Some more information on the next gen 86:

http://wernher.co.jp/tagebuch/wp/wp-...4/IMG_2674.jpg


Maybe a late April's fool joke? :bellyroll:

For example: いやらしい still bullshit lol

LOL this wins for the Chuck Testa reference :lol:

hey look at what Honda did from AP1 to AP2...an increase in displacement would really be the only option if they stay NA as I doubt Toyota/Subaru would try to incorporate something like HCCI into a boxer. we'll see :>

I think so as well it would be a natural fit :lol:

The only thing is that in certain markets an engine over 2L attracts a lot more import tax. So they may not go that route.

..displacement tax concerns are perhaps legitimate, but at the same time considering most of the twins ended up in western countries without displacement taxes, perhaps this isn't as big of a concern.

Plus, if ya live in say Japan, going from the 1.5-2.0 L bracket to 2.0-2.5 L is only an extra 6,000 yen (or about $60 USD) per year, so I don't think that is a real hurdle :iono:

2 VECTOR DRIVES!?

Your move Supra.

:burnrubber:

These people are dreaming. Supra is the official answer for more power.

A better translation :)

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20.../#.WsRxt4ghKUk

A huge market for cars like this is California, and ARB has announced that they plan to ban turbo's on gasoline passenger vehicles in the not so distant future.

LOL Well they also said they will ban all internal combustion engines by 2030 but I wouldn't panic just yet.


http://www.motortrend.com/news/calif...gine-vehicles/

But what if I want 3 pedals?

A separate throttle for each electric motor and a brake?

EPA is considering revoking California's long standing waiver to elevate automotive standards above a federal level. You'll see taxes and penalties go thru the roof instead of mandates. 20k dollar penalty for turbo car or something stupid.

Lol. Very good :)

or they will just secede, fingers crossed...although they'd probably just be able to speed up the process of banning internal combustion, so still bad news for CA citizens, unless of course they get sidetracked in their efforts to tax air

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Is a Vecter-Drive radioactive or a gas powered wolverine?

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