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digital_assassin 07-24-2012 10:28 PM

HELP! Front bumper installation issues
 
I've had the front bumper off a few times and today I noticed in the corner at the rear of the headlight that the bumper doesn't want to stay put. I had this exact same issue on the tC. Has anyone else had this issue and how did you fix it?

digital_assassin 07-24-2012 10:33 PM

2 Attachment(s)
This
Attachment 11138

Should be this
Attachment 11139

It seems like the forward most tab doesn't sit down far enough.

Silverdub 07-24-2012 10:45 PM

Loose plastic that stays on the car where the bumper snaps. Happens all the time atthe bodyshop at the dealer we keep replacing those on yaris and corollas. Dont know iv its made the same way

digital_assassin 07-24-2012 11:20 PM

How do you fix it? Replace the plastic bracket that holds the headlight to the car which is the piece this snaps into? Seems like a crap deal if you pull off the front bumper it won't properly align without replacing stuff.

GuySmily 07-25-2012 01:55 AM

Get used to it. I keep a bunch on hand for my MR-S. Clips, snaps, pop-its, etc.

digital_assassin 07-25-2012 02:07 AM

If this is something that needs to be replaced it isn't just a simple clip or pop-it. It's the whole bracket that holds in the headlight. I would guess a minimum of $100 to replace. I don't think Toyota or Subaru would have made a large piece that fails this easy. There is probably some method to getting it back in that I've overlooked.

RiskyTrousers 07-25-2012 02:30 AM

I have the same problem. Are you sure the clips aren't replaceable? That would suck. Going to the dealer tomorrow to see if I can order some clips.

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digital_assassin 07-25-2012 02:44 AM

Darrens DIY - Check out the bracket I am talking about. I don't want to take the whole front bumper off again to inspect if I don't have to but I guess people just haven't really dealt with it yet. Here's the bracket that isn't holding the bumper tab like it should.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 259392)
BRZ/FR-S Bumper Removal & FR-S Headlight Reflector Blackout




http://i.imgur.com/zq3mE.jpg

9. To remove the bumper, firmly pull out on each corner and it will pop off.




http://i.imgur.com/jkUkk.jpg

11. There are two more 10mm bolts on the side of each headlight that are removed.



http://i.imgur.com/tupjE.jpg

12. Remove the single 10mm bolt underneath each headlight with a socket extension.



http://i.imgur.com/8bEAY.jpg

13. The black headlight surround thingy easily pulls off.



http://i.imgur.com/PFCdb.jpg



14. Just let the surround thingy dangle because it has wires attached to it.




That's the bracket that holds the nose around the headlight. No replaceable clips in it. I am wondering if I should try and wedge something thin in there to hold it.

Silverdub 07-25-2012 07:52 AM

Them check your bumper to see if the built inclips are atil sharp or round perhaps. You leep taking it off so something is worn. Its not made to be taken off condtantly

digital_assassin 07-25-2012 11:07 AM

Hahaha, I know. The bumper has been off twice with one extra pull out when aligning it the first time so effectively the clip has been used 3 times. This is probably 3 times more than most people will ever do but any of us that want to work on the headlights or if the CAI they choose goes into the front or even intercoolers we will all start having this problem. It happened on my last car and I never spent the time trying to find a fix. I would just pull it off again and start looking at it but then I risk the passenger side failing too. Before I go that route I thought I would ask the forum members since most of us like to mod our vehicles. I am just curious if anyone has found a technique that 1st off can prevent this from happening if you have to take off the front bumper and 2ndly how to repair without a new bracket if it does occur.

Fenrir 07-25-2012 11:27 AM

Not a clip issue, it's a bumper cover mold issue. The clips don't line up properly to the fender and put extra stress on the clips which cause them to pop out/break very easily. Here's my experience so far:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9289

digital_assassin 07-25-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenrir (Post 337411)
Not a clip issue, it's a bumper cover mold issue. The clips don't line up properly to the fender and put extra stress on the clips which cause them to pop out/break very easily. Here's my experience so far:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9289

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like it's happening without ever removing the bumper. Mine is going into the dealer today for a Five Axis lip kit re-install since the dealer I bought it from botched the job. I will ask them for input and see if they can repair while it's apart but it's a long shot since I don't think they need to pull the front bumper off to redo the lip kit.

Fenrir 07-25-2012 12:38 PM

If it's the same issue as mine, there is no fix. The bumper itself is molded improperly and cannot be repaired (without cutting/melting/remolding the whole section that connects to the fender). It will need to be replaced completely. Hopefully for you, it's not the exact same issue I'm having!

digital_assassin 11-06-2012 04:50 PM

Update - Bumper replaced and all new clips around headlights installed by body shop. Drivers side popped out again and the car has only been back in my possession for an hour. Wonder if the body shop really replaced the bumper....

Kenta 11-11-2012 05:52 PM

I have the same problem with my front bumper, I can live with it, but it's just really annoying to look at. hope you get yours all sorted out, and if you do find a solution that doesn't require replacing the entire bumper, please share!

BRZranger 11-11-2012 06:42 PM

I looked at @AVOturboworld's turbo FRS, and they had the same front bumper problem. I believe Paul said it was there after they removed the bumper and re-installed it.

digital_assassin 11-12-2012 02:02 AM

Perrin has 3 cars and all have this issue. Drivers side just like mine. Any car I've seen this issue it is on the drivers side

Kenta 11-12-2012 05:19 PM

I wish it was just the driver's side for me. the gap is much larger on the passenger side. would take pics, but it's at the autobody shop getting repaired, some girl hit my driver door (this was the second accident my FRS had, first accident was with an SUV and I do take responsibility for it, really sorry, please don't hate me guys). Kinda upset with the sh#t luck I've been having.

Anorexic 86 11-13-2012 05:52 AM

Just wondering as someone who hasn't removed the bumper yet...

BEFORE THE BUMPER IS VIOLENTLY UNCLIPPED HERE... would it be possible to UNBOLT this side clip from behind the fender liner or from underneath the car and have it COME OFF WITH THE BUMPER??? Therefore preventing any wear & tear?

http://i.imgur.com/jkUkk.jpg

deucethemoose 11-13-2012 03:42 PM

Mine was like that on both sides after having the front bumper/left fender/ left headlight replaced due to a woman hitting me.

I took it back to the body shop and they replaced whatever clips were broken. Still holding well.

Hope it gets figured out, as I would like to order the AVO kit and will need to remove the bumper to fit the front mount and I don't want the bumper sticking out like that.

Mr.Jay 11-13-2012 03:53 PM

mine became like that after 5k of driving. Local member pointed it out brought it to Scion they said that normal and would not do anything. I took off my front bumper to retrofit HIDs and black my housing and could not fix the issue myself.

Both sides are now doing it...

I'm just going to buy a INGs+ bumper and hope that they correct this issue on theirs

digital_assassin 11-13-2012 04:57 PM

I'm very OCD about this stuff so it will all be fixed one way or another. Just getting frustrating that issues keep popping up. I would say glad I'm not alone but I think it sucks. There has to be a good solution for the bumper issue. I'm thinking a plastic shim that you wedge in once the bumper is set putting downward force on the bumper to tab seat or maybe a little plastic epoxy to build up the tab on the connection bracket so there is something to bite onto. I dunno yet.

adprokid 11-13-2012 07:17 PM

Is there anyone who installed the front bumper perfectly ?

I will work on my headlights next week, any advice when removing or installing the bumper ?

gmookher 11-13-2012 07:35 PM

I had no issues on my reinstall, but I took time, one snap at a time before tightening any screws down

Drunknhero 11-14-2012 02:07 AM

Mine is like that too... Still no way to fix this issue?

Derik210 11-27-2012 12:26 PM

thank god im not the only one, this shit has been driving me crazy lol i cant tell you how many times i have taken mt bumper of trying to correct it..

FRSTRM 06-29-2013 02:45 PM

I have this issue after blacking out my headlights. Did you guys come to any resolve? I'm hoping not to remove the entire bumper just to realize there is nothing I can do.

charged86 06-29-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSTRM (Post 1034393)
I have this issue after blacking out my headlights. Did you guys come to any resolve? I'm hoping not to remove the entire bumper just to realize there is nothing I can do.

There are new headlight brackets available. There is a tsb for them. Out of pocket purchase. I just bought mine will install tomorrow. Part numbers in a second

charged86 06-29-2013 03:08 PM

Rh side 57707CA0001
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...psc3d78c9c.jpg

charged86 06-29-2013 03:10 PM

Lh side 57707CA0101
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...psa6d341fe.jpg

digital_assassin 06-29-2013 09:57 PM

Awesome news!

Zgrinch 06-29-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1034404)
There are new headlight brackets available. There is a tsb for them. Out of pocket purchase. I just bought mine will install tomorrow. Part numbers in a second

Let us know if this fixes the bumper alignment once you install. I have the same problem on mine. Drivers side.

TemeCal 06-29-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1034404)
There are new headlight brackets available. There is a tsb for them. Out of pocket purchase. I just bought mine will install tomorrow. Part numbers in a second

Thanks for the part numbers. My passenger side is having issues. You say there is a TSB for it, but it's an out of pocket purchase?? That's a bit frustrating that they're not covering the new brackets. How much are the brackets?

Thanks!

Zgrinch 06-29-2013 10:27 PM

Also. Are the brackets universal? Will this correct the bumper alignment for both FRS and BRZ?

charged86 06-29-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TemeCal (Post 1034998)
Thanks for the part numbers. My passenger side is having issues. You say there is a TSB for it, but it's an out of pocket purchase?? That's a bit frustrating that they're not covering the new brackets. How much are the brackets?

Thanks!

Sorry I meant if you can't get them to cover it. There is a thread for this with a picture of the tsb. I can't go in for warranty work because I am supercharge so I paid out of pocket. About 25$ per

charged86 06-29-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zgrinch (Post 1035007)
Also. Are the brackets universal? Will this correct the bumper alignment for both FRS and BRZ?

Im about to find out tomorrow I bought them at Subaru.

Mr.Jay 06-29-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1035011)
Im about to find out tomorrow I bought them at Subaru.

Please update and I will pray everyday to the driving goods to give you stig like abilities for your remaining years.

:bow:

Wes 06-29-2013 11:00 PM

I remember someone saying that when putting on the bumper you need to start with the center of it and then work your way to the side and he had no problems. Almost as if you're hugging the bumper back on the car or something, hope it helps.

charged86 06-29-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes (Post 1035047)
I remember someone saying that when putting on the bumper you need to start with the center of it and then work your way to the side and he had no problems. Almost as if you're hugging the bumper back on the car or something, hope it helps.

No its the design. Of the brackets they don't have large engough tabs to hold

Dipstik-sportech 06-29-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zgrinch (Post 1035007)
Also. Are the brackets universal? Will this correct the bumper alignment for both FRS and BRZ?

Yes this^^^. My brz has this issue on the drivers side and it's driving me nuts!!!


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