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I like the seats in my FRS and figure they'll be Ok on track. But how do I deal with the airbags since I need full harness belts. Is there a way to pull the fuses and deactivate the airbags? Better still, how do I safely remove the damned things? If I have to pull my seats for whatever reason, how do I do it safely?

Why do you need a harness? Wait never mind that. One thing at a time.

Let's go off what most of the track safety list requires around here. If you have a harness you'll need a roll bar. Then again depends on the organization and how flexible they are about it.

If you just want to roll around the town with a harness don't. Local laws don't allow it. Unless you get those retractable 4 points they make for jeeps.

If and when you eat shit at the track it's best to have the air bags. I won't mess with them unless I'm going full race car, not full ricer.

If you want to remove your seat or any other part that has an air bag, simple: disconnect the battery. Handle with caution.

If you have to ask then don't do it. Why do you need a harness?

Dude has 18 posts and he's from Florida. Of course he needs a harness, but not a cage, and stock seats.

He needs one and he needs it NOW!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...54#post3064454

There's a Wine Country Motorsports next to Sebring -- about 86 miles away from Sarasota. Good place to try on gear, sit in some seats, etc.
http://winecountrymotorsports.com/

Ok assuming he's not an idiot trying to rice his car on the street lol. To remove the airbags all you have to do is unplug/unclip them. Ideally you want to be safe and disconnect the battery then press the brakes for 15-30 seconds until the brake lights don't even come on. I've done them without disconnecting the battery but I don't recommend it.

You'll have to search on the forums if this will cause any issues with the ECU but I don't think so. There's also the airbag module under the head unit (on top of transmission tunnel) but again I'm not sure if you'll run into issues when disconnecting.

However I do not advise running stock seats with a harness/cage/bar/etc. If you're going to do it you should get proper seats. It's designed to work together as a system. Not having part of it will compromise your safety and will most likely be more dangerous than running the OEM 3 pt seatbelt, seat, and airbags.

The Champcar event is in another car so the harness question isn't about that.

My question about harness is to prepare my newly-bought FRS for track days. I've been an instructor for a long time, but haven't been active for the past few years. I run dedicated track wheels and tires, and would feel lost in three-point belts on the track. I'd have to look but I think my current club wouldn't allow track rubber without a harness anyway. No roll bar is required in a hard top coupe, so I'll put in a harness bar. It looks to me like the stock seats will work fine with a harness and sternum strap. I've done that in other cars, but I wouldn't want to have air bags pop when I'm strapped into a harness. I'll go back to three-point belts and street tires when I leave the track. I wouldn't attempt to use a harness on street.

I hope that clears up any confusion.
Thanks