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sid2022 03-23-2018 05:50 PM

2016 FRS Shifter rattle >5000 RPM Warranty Repair?
 
Hello,

I have a 2016 FRS 5MT and have had a shifter rattle (seems to be coming from below the shifter) consistently at RPM > 5000 in all gears. The car is <2 years old. Rattle started when the car only had 1 year on it.

I have seen other threads. While there is a TSB about this for 2013 FRS, I have seen people with 2014+ FRS also talking about this issue.

I took the car to a Toyota dealer in the Dallas area, but they have been trying to punt on the issue. Once they said the rattle is normal. Another time, they showed me another used FRS with an even louder rattle.

My question is:

1. Has anyone been able to get this shifter rattle fixed under warranty (Subaru/Toyota)?

2. What was/is the fix to the issue (if any) that the dealer do?

The most likely fix I have read about is changing the o-ring and bushings. But there have been multiple fixes proposed....

Thanks!
Sid

FirstWinter 03-23-2018 06:18 PM

It's normal. It doesn't bother me but I'm not staring at my shifter when I'm at 5,000+ rpm. Usually I'm grinning like an idiot and looking at the road.

humfrz 03-23-2018 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid2022 (Post 3062943)
Hello,

I have a 2016 FRS 5MT and have had a shifter rattle (seems to be coming from below the shifter) consistently at RPM > 5000 in all gears. The car is <2 years old. Rattle started when the car only had 1 year on it.

I have seen other threads. While there is a TSB about this for 2013 FRS, I have seen people with 2014+ FRS also talking about this issue.

I took the car to a Toyota dealer in the Dallas area, but they have been trying to punt on the issue. Once they said the rattle is normal. Another time, they showed me another used FRS with an even louder rattle.

My question is:

1. Has anyone been able to get this shifter rattle fixed under warranty (Subaru/Toyota)?

2. What was/is the fix to the issue (if any) that the dealer do?

The most likely fix I have read about is changing the o-ring and bushings. But there have been multiple fixes proposed....

Thanks!
Sid

Welcome to ..... The Forum ...... there, sid2022 ...... :clap:

(oh, I hope your transmission has 6 forward speeds ....;))

Does your shifter actually make a rattling sound ..... or does it just vibrate (visually)..??

Do you have a short shifter installed .. ??

Does it do it when the shifter knob is removed ..??

Come back .....:)


humfrz

Decep 03-23-2018 11:30 PM

there is a TSB on shifter rattle. one of the cars i test drove did it too.

its not normal.

FirstWinter 03-25-2018 03:22 AM

If you had a video of it I think it would help a lot to differentiate whether it is the normal rattle or there's something more to it.

Ultramaroon 03-25-2018 03:34 AM

It's just the reverse lockout cable rattling inside the gearshift lever. Don't sweat it.

chaoskaze 03-25-2018 04:12 AM

Ya mine does it too...soo....?

OK MY OCD admit that that I actually tried to address this issue before & was able to make it vibrate less by......... wait for it....................
Changing Transfluid & installing chassis stiffener.......... errr don't ask me why but somehow it made it do it a lot less.......


But in the end I can never really get rid of 100% and learned to live with it when it does make noise.






If you google around there is actually something they sell to minimalize that.... i think it's duracon reverse lockout instead of the metal one?


Actually I'm just spewing this off some random memory I had in my head so it could be totally wrong! But you should check that.

scottman 03-25-2018 08:24 AM

Have you tried to jam some grease up under your reverse lockout? Worked for me..

Varelco 03-26-2018 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3063404)
It's just the reverse lockout cable rattling inside the gearshift lever. Don't sweat it.

Did you manage to prove this was the case? I remember reading somewhere you had a theory it was but it was just a theory at the time.

Ultramaroon 03-26-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varelco (Post 3063703)
Did you manage to prove this was the case? I remember reading somewhere you had a theory it was but it was just a theory at the time.

Ooo... I'd be overstating it to say I proved my theory. I have a couple spare gearshift levers that I've had knocking around. Once I got the cable to rattle in my hand I lost interest. I never bothered stuffing one and installing it. :(

I'll try to get a decent clip of the sound and upload it. Thanks for keeping me in line.

Ultramaroon 03-27-2018 03:02 AM

This is the source of the gearshift rattle. Annoying but innocuous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMaI-qp3lKY

Varelco 03-27-2018 04:44 AM

Ah the little bugger! You have potentially saved alot of frustration, nice one Ultramoon. Thats got to be it, the pitch/frequency sounds exactly like what mine does. Apart from scottman's approach of loading it up with some thick grease I can't see what else can be done. Will definitely be sharing this over on the UK forums, its had a few of us scratching our heads for a while now.

Ultramaroon 03-27-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varelco (Post 3064221)
Ah the little bugger! You have potentially saved alot of frustration, nice one Ultramoon. Thats got to be it, the pitch/frequency sounds exactly like what mine does. Apart from scottman's approach of loading it up with some thick grease I can't see what else can be done. Will definitely be sharing this over on the UK forums, its had a few of us scratching our heads for a while now.

I appreciate your holding my feet to the fire. Technically I had it wrong because, although the cable does vibrate, it's actually the foot which chatters. (edit: which, after looking back in this thread, others have already mentioned.)

I had a similar thought that maybe this stuff would help.

https://www.nyelubricants.com/damping-greases

Varelco 03-28-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3064377)
I appreciate your holding my feet to the fire. Technically I had it wrong because, although the cable does vibrate, it's actually the foot which chatters. (edit: which, after looking back in this thread, others have already mentioned.)

I had a similar thought that maybe this stuff would help.

https://www.nyelubricants.com/damping-greases

I see what you mean, again nothing much more you can do with that. Even if you added some shim material in between the foot and shaft its going to work its way out.

That damping grease is posh, it may work better than general packing grease. Just need something that doesn't melt and is happy to cling to metal. I'll have a go once I have some free time to play.


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