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JRitt 08-29-2012 09:03 AM

Thanks guys.
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I appreciate the rear brakes aren't subject to as much abuse as the fronts but do you think there is any chance of Essex Parts doing a kit for the rear? Not so much for braking but weight reduction?
Yes. We are looking at options for the rear. Our first priority is finishing development on the front setups, as that is where the most need obviously is. After we're done there, we'll be looking at the rear and seeing what we can do. Anything we do in the rear will be designed to work seamlessly with our front systems. That said, the big issue with the rear is the parking brake. Eliminating it would make things easy, but retaining it (which most people want), makes it tricky.

Matt Andrews 08-29-2012 11:36 AM

yeah. I want a 2 piece rotor for the rear for weight. But I'm not sure how I feel about aluminum. If you accidentally left the parking brake engaged, would your be eating up the e brake pad? or would the e brake pad be eating the aluminum hat?

SYC086 08-29-2012 07:44 PM

You'd be eating the aluminium. The only aftermarket kit I've seen that addresses the drum parking brake has a steel/iron/whatever liner pressed into the inside of the hat.

I'd personally be happy with a caliper kit so they visually match front to rear.

JRitt 09-11-2012 10:51 AM

Hi Guys,
I haven't updated in a while...sorry for the silence...been very busy!

Our Essex Competition Brake Systems are officially in production! We're shooting for late this month/early next month. The Sprint System will mostly likely be released shortly before the Endurance System (we had to go back and make some revisions to the brake duct inlet).

I will be announcing final pricing very soon. We are most likely going to do a pre-order special deal. I'm looking at some options now. Thanks for your patience. :happy0180:

Alusil 09-11-2012 04:48 PM

:thumbsup:
thanking you in anticipation!

SubieNate 09-11-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SYC086 (Post 410698)
You'd be eating the aluminium. The only aftermarket kit I've seen that addresses the drum parking brake has a steel/iron/whatever liner pressed into the inside of the hat.

I'd personally be happy with a caliper kit so they visually match front to rear.

Yes, as long as the natural brake bias doesn't shift too much to the front (A function of piston diameter, effective disk diameter and swept area/coefficient of friction) and the main benefits of the AP system are increased heat capacity and feel as opposed to vastly increased braking torque (Remember, you can only brake as hard as your tires can grip. I could lock up all 4 on my old Impreza with the dinky sliding calipers. It just didn't feel so great), then just making a bracket and caliper to fit the stock rear rotors would be perfect.

That said, I've seen pressed in liners as well and it seems to be a good enough solution as long as you're not using the e-brake rally style, and in that case you should really be using a hydraulic system anyway.

Nathan

UncleFester 09-11-2012 08:38 PM

Thanks Jeff, I'm ready to get on the preorder list. :)

kllrnohj 09-16-2012 03:48 PM

+1 for the Endurance here. Did you ever get final weights for that one?

diss7 09-16-2012 04:07 PM

+1 for the Sprint set.

Love products/companies like this. They actually do their own R&D and give you what you really need. Not just another bigger is better or more shiney more sales approach.

Thumbs up for a great product!

RaceTech 09-16-2012 10:34 PM

I work with Jeff and Essex and I can gladly say that that is not how they operate. They are not their to sell off the shelf garbage and rack up the prices to make a massive profit like the rest of the brake companies. Everything is properly engineering and countless hours are spent doing so. You guys will love this kit!

UncleFester 09-16-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JRitt (Post 409402)
Thanks guys.
Yes. We are looking at options for the rear. Our first priority is finishing development on the front setups, as that is where the most need obviously is. After we're done there, we'll be looking at the rear and seeing what we can do. Anything we do in the rear will be designed to work seamlessly with our front systems. That said, the big issue with the rear is the parking brake. Eliminating it would make things easy, but retaining it (which most people want), makes it tricky.

I'm ok with eliminating it. :D

track_warrior 09-17-2012 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RaceTech (Post 444188)
I work with Jeff and Essex and I can gladly say that that is not how they operate. They are not their to sell off the shelf garbage and rack up the prices to make a massive profit like the rest of the brake companies. Everything is properly engineering and countless hours are spent doing so. You guys will love this kit!

I cant wait, so far my Experiences with Essex have been excellent. The advice and products i have gotten from Jeff @ Essex have been amazing, couldnt be happier. Im currently Running Spiegler lines with AP fluid and Ferodo ds2500 pads to hold me off until the AP kit is on sale!! Two piece rotors for the rear would be great to hold us off until a solution is available for the rear. :party0030:

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JRitt 09-18-2012 05:49 PM

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the kudos! :happy0180: I have a few updates:
  1. The changes to the Endurance system bracket are complete, and they are now in production. I'm going to post some pics and details on the changes soon. The outcome is very slick, and I think our customers will really like what we did on these.
  2. Official prices for our Competition Brake Systems are as follows:
    • Sprint System- $2,099.00
    • Endurance System- $2,599.00
    • Both systems will include everything you need for the front of the car, including a set of AP Racing C300 endurance racing pads (not some sh*tty $14 street pads that belong in a dumpster...sorry, sensitive topic for me!)
  3. I was told that we should be able to ship the Sprint systems within the next 2 weeks...they're almost done!:happyanim:
  4. We are going to open up pre-orders for both systems in the next few days. Anyone pre-ordering either of our systems will have a special bundle of supporting products available at drastically reduced prices. I'll post more details on the pre-order and launch bundles very soon. I just need to iron out a few more details.
I put together our page for the Sprint System. I need to go through it again, but just about everything should be there. I put the S2000 installation instructions up since the FT86 ones aren't yet finished. They should give a good idea of what is involved in the install. Wheel fitment templates are also at the top of the page.

I think that's it for now. Thanks gents. Let me know if you have any questions about anything.

FYI...an Evo we were supporting just got 2nd in class and 5th overall at Pikes Peak the other week. He is running the Endurance package on his car (CP8350 calipers and CP3908 discs...and CL Brakes pads). Here's a pic from the event...thought it was cool pic of these brakes in action and wanted to share. You can see more details on the car and results here.

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Captain Snooze 09-18-2012 06:23 PM

@JRitt,
Sorry if this doesn't come across the way I mean; it is difficult to convey the right tone in a forum. Do you think including the brake pads is the best way to do this kit? I am just thinking that there maybe be people who have their own preference for pads. Do you think it would be feasible to add an option on the webpage for different pads. I have seen drop down menus that do that: Want option a? +$100. Want option b? +$200.
Cheers.


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