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Xman17 03-12-2018 08:37 PM

BRZ AC Rattle?
 
New to the forums!

I found some stuff that were related to my issue when I used the "Search" feature.

But most of them described a chirp or flapping noise.


This is a definite rattle noise. only happens with the AC on.

https://youtu.be/QsBL4mFIfcc


Any help is appreciated.

humfrz 03-12-2018 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman17 (Post 3057343)
New to the forums!

I found some stuff that were related to my issue when I used the "Search" feature.

But most of them described a chirp or flapping noise.


This is a definite rattle noise. only happens with the AC on.

https://youtu.be/QsBL4mFIfcc


Any help is appreciated.

Hi Xman17 and welcome to posting to the forum......:clap:

What engine mods do you have ..??

Does it sound like the sound is coming from the compressor ..??

So, it doesn't make the sound if the compressor clutch is NOT engaged .. ??

Is the system cooling OK ..??

Come back.


humfrz

Xman17 03-12-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3057388)
Hi Xman17 and welcome to posting to the forum......:clap:

What engine mods do you have ..??

Does it sound like the sound is coming from the compressor ..??

So, it doesn't make the sound if the compressor clutch is NOT engaged .. ??

Is the system cooling OK ..??

Come back.


humfrz

Greddy Turbo on E85 with a Tune from Evasive.

It sounds like it's coming from the vibration of the pulley in the video.

Cooling system is fine. Yeah there is no sound when AC is off.

humfrz 03-13-2018 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Xman17 (Post 3057390)
Greddy Turbo on E85 with a Tune from Evasive.

It sounds like it's coming from the vibration of the pulley in the video.

Cooling system is fine. Yeah there is no sound when AC is off.

OK. The idler pulley does look like it's working a little harder, but that would be expected because the locked up compressor is putting more stress on the belt.

However, the idler pulley could be bad. If you loosen it up, does it spin free and doesn't wobble ..??

Can you get rod to touch the compressor (with your ear next to the other end) to see of the sound is coming from the locked compressor .. ??

Have you checked to make sure the compressor is bolted on tight ..??

It could be that the clutch on the compressor is damaged and making the compressor unit rattle when it engages.

I'll ring up ol @Ultramaroon ...... for an opinion.....he has good ears .....;)

Stay tuned.


humfrz

Xman17 03-13-2018 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3057437)
OK. The idler pulley does look like it's working a little harder, but that would be expected because the locked up compressor is putting more stress on the belt.

However, the idler pulley could be bad. If you loosen it up, does it spin free and doesn't wobble ..??

Can you get rod to touch the compressor (with your ear next to the other end) to see of the sound is coming from the locked compressor .. ??

Have you checked to make sure the compressor is bolted on tight ..??

It could be that the clutch on the compressor is damaged and making the compressor unit rattle when it engages.

I'll ring up ol @Ultramaroon ...... for an opinion.....he has good ears .....;)

Stay tuned.


humfrz

Here's something interesting. The rattle goes away when the clutch is pressed in? That's so weird.

humfrz 03-13-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Xman17 (Post 3057440)
Here's something interesting. The rattle goes away when the clutch is pressed in? That's so weird.

Do you mean the driveline clutch or the clutch on the compressor ..??


humfrz

Xman17 03-13-2018 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3057445)
Do you mean the driveline clutch or the clutch on the compressor ..??


humfrz

Drive line clutch, but actually it might not be it. Might just be my imagination. Though the one thing that does trigger it is the AC.

I think it might have something to do with the idler pulley?

humfrz 03-13-2018 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman17 (Post 3057460)
Drive line clutch, but actually it might not be it. Might just be my imagination. Though the one thing that does trigger it is the AC.

I think it might have something to do with the idler pulley?

If it had something to do with the driveline clutch ...... that is a whole new can of TOB worms.

If you suspect the idler pulley, I'd suggest you loosen the belt and see if the pulley spins freely and doesn't wobble on the shaft.

@Ultramaroon is LATE to this party ..... :sigh:


humfrz

Ultramaroon 03-13-2018 03:20 AM

It's just the gearbox. All the gears rotate whenever the input shaft spins. When the engine spins slowly, the firing pulses cause the gears to rattle a little.

The AC increases the load on the engine at idle so you get more of the rattle.

Normal.

Ultramaroon 03-13-2018 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3057469)
@Ultramaroon is LATE to this party ..... :sigh:

Keep your pantyhose on. Mrs. Ultra and I were enjoying a relaxing evening watching West Wing reruns. Took me a while to get to the clip.

Teseo 03-13-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3057480)
It's just the gearbox. All the gears rotate whenever the input shaft spins. When the engine spins slowly, the firing pulses cause the gears to rattle a little.

The AC increases the load on the engine at idle so you get more of the rattle.

Normal.

And when you press the clutch all the way down the noise disappears?

Ultramaroon 03-13-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 3057529)
And when you press the clutch all the way down the noise disappears?

Yup. Ever heard it? It's more obvious when it's really cold.

Teseo 03-13-2018 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3057631)
Yup. Ever heard it? It's more obvious when it's really cold.

Nop, bloody hot (+85 °F) it disappear if press down the clutch or turning off the AC. Glad its just another quirk

Xman17 03-14-2018 02:40 PM

Thanks for all the responses guys. Still getting used to the small quirks of the car.

Reminds me of my MR2 where I used to hear all the clicks, clunks, and squeeks of it all around.


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