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Auto_egr 02-27-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehShirt (Post 3050534)
I stopped using the shifter because of the issues. Rattling was present on every drive. Shift boot wouldn't stay on. Colliding with the bolts was worrisome. Not worth it IMO.

FT86 SF said they haven't heard complaints of these issues.

The STI shifter can be had for around $330 on some sites. I should have gone that route.



Exactly what tehShirt stated. Rattles wouldn't stop, build quality was questionable, shift boot wouldn't stay put, reverse lockout impacting the bolts, set screw kept backing out. Mine is currently in the mail on the way back to FT86SF. I will go with the STI version in the future or TRD, not worth keeping it with all the issues described above.


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DarkSideFRS 02-27-2018 01:54 PM

anyone know the part number for the STI and/or JDM TRD short shifter? i am heading to japan in May and would like to pick one up

tehShirt 03-01-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS (Post 3050608)
anyone know the part number for the STI and/or JDM TRD short shifter? i am heading to japan in May and would like to pick one up

C1010CA100 is the part number for the newest STi version in the US.

JBezugs 03-16-2018 06:08 PM

Just installed the shifter, seems like a high quality piece.

I saw that the set screw was installed, however I forgot to check if it was tight... I may pull the car apart again tomorrow to verify, but everything seems fine.

It does rattle a bit above 4000 rpm like everyone is saying, but it isn't too bad and seems to be getting better over time.

EDIT: Been enjoying the shifter over the weekend and on my commute to work today. The rattle is a bit annoying, but I am going to grease up the reverse lockout (though the allen bolt that is on the top of the shifter below the shift knob) and see if that cures the rattle. Looks to have helped with a lot of people who owned the Kartboy.

As a secondary note, I did not reattach the washer when installing the new shifter as they bearing spacers seemed to do that job, but now I have about 1cm of slop in the shifter, so I will add it back.

DarkSideFRS 03-26-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tehShirt (Post 3051749)
C1010CA100 is the part number for the newest STi version in the US.

thanks! looks to go for $395. Does anyone know how much they go for in Japan (for both TRD and STI short shifter)?

jmark 03-27-2018 07:24 AM

https://parts.bestbuysubaru.com/p/Su...iABEgIkavD_BwE

JBezugs 04-11-2018 09:33 AM

So now that I have had this shifter installed for a month, some impressions:

The shift feel is fantastic. It's a big step up from the stock shifter, I have no regrets here.

However, a few issues: The rattle above 4k RPM is still annoying, and I am going to contact ft86SF in hopes that they have a fix for it. I have tried numerous kartboy fixes like greasing the reverse lockout and spring, and pulling the rubber shifter boot over the reverse lockout (as the two shifters are similar), and they have helped somewhat, but the rattle is still much more noticable than the stock shifter. Does anyone know what I can do to quell this?

Also, the reverse lockout does not have a deep enough lip at the shift boot retainer location, so your shift boot will pop up ALL THE TIME unless you have something there to keep it from doing so. I have an elastic there currently, it does the job however I am thinking I may file down the lower edge of the lip so that the lip is larger, or find an O-ring that would fit.

Since I can't return this shifter, I'd love to help improve it @FT-86 SpeedFactory

tehShirt 04-11-2018 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBezugs (Post 3070951)
So now that I have had this shifter installed for a month, some impressions:

The shift feel is fantastic. It's a big step up from the stock shifter, I have no regrets here.

However, a few issues: The rattle above 4k RPM is still annoying, and I am going to contact ft86SF in hopes that they have a fix for it. I have tried numerous kartboy fixes like greasing the reverse lockout and spring, and pulling the rubber shifter boot over the reverse lockout (as the two shifters are similar), and they have helped somewhat, but the rattle is still much more noticable than the stock shifter. Does anyone know what I can do to quell this?

Also, the reverse lockout does not have a deep enough lip at the shift boot retainer location, so your shift boot will pop up ALL THE TIME unless you have something there to keep it from doing so. I have an elastic there currently, it does the job however I am thinking I may file down the lower edge of the lip so that the lip is larger, or find an O-ring that would fit.

Since I can't return this shifter, I'd love to help improve it @FT-86 SpeedFactory

When your shifter is rattling, does it help if you lift up on the reverse lockout? If so, tightening the set screw underneath the shift knob can help some. This helped reduce the rattle, but it never went away.

The shift boot issue was very annoying, I think removing some material below the lip could help, but I think the main issue is the outer diameter of the lip itself is too small.

mjanmohammad 04-11-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehShirt (Post 3070955)
When your shifter is rattling, does it help if you lift up on the reverse lockout? If so, tightening the set screw underneath the shift knob can help some. This helped reduce the rattle, but it never went away.

The shift boot issue was very annoying, I think removing some material below the lip could help, but I think the main issue is the outer diameter of the lip itself is too small.



I haven’t had an issue with the shift boot slipping off, but I’m also not using the OEM shift boot so that may be it


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JBezugs 04-11-2018 11:16 PM

FT86 Speed Factory Short Shifter Review Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tehShirt (Post 3070955)
When your shifter is rattling, does it help if you lift up on the reverse lockout? If so, tightening the set screw underneath the shift knob can help some. This helped reduce the rattle, but it never went away.

The shift boot issue was very annoying, I think removing some material below the lip could help, but I think the main issue is the outer diameter of the lip itself is too small.



I tightened the Allen bolt under the shift knob a few weeks ago and it helped reduce the rattle like you said, but it has not gone away. Lifting the reverse lockout seems to make a little difference but the rattle is still very much present.

As for the boot issue, I am going to try taking some material off the bottom edge this weekend and seeing if it helps. Honestly it sucks that I can’t return it (due to ordering through ft86motorsports, a Canadian distributor that has a partnership with FT86SF), but I’m hoping that if we can get the attention of FT86SF and I stick it out, we can get them to fix issues with the shifter.

chaoskaze 06-23-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Auto_egr (Post 3046852)
Thankfully my set screw was still installed, but very loose. I tightened it down (after ripping up the interior again) and it was finally working well. However, I'm not happy with the overall quality, it rattles noticeably while cruising on the highway, I have about 0.25" of play while in gear from left to right, and the reverse lockout does impact the screws while shifting. Most likely going to talk to them and return it, it's pathetic that no one can design an OEM style short shifter without drawbacks. Hell, they didn't even make the lip on the reverse lockout large enough to hold the shift boot down, keeps popping up and looking sloppy.


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Just get the japanese TRD one and call it a day, as oem as possible with zero drawback.....

STi one that ppl mentioned is really nice, I just think it's not short enough......but everything about is was prefect. You really notice the difference when you rev match down shift, downshifting into second is like fukn magnetic... damn stick got sucked into 2nd gear........ but not so much for normal driving.

Knowing Sti had this the day twins came out... you know the thing is designed with the car, but they are just too cheap to put it in. :thumbdown:


*I just installed the STi short shifter last week.

weederr33 06-23-2018 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3102414)
Just get the japanese TRD one and call it a day, as oem as possible with zero drawback.....

STi one that ppl mentioned is really nice, I just think it's not short enough......but everything about is was prefect. You really notice the difference when you rev match down shift, downshifting into second is like fukn magnetic... damn stick got sucked into 2nd gear........ but not so much for normal driving.

Knowing Sti had this the day twins came out... you know the thing is designed with the car, but they are just too cheap to put it in. :thumbdown:


*I just installed the STi short shifter last week.

I thoroughly enjoy the sti shift I put in a couple weeks ago. But yes I would also suggest it or the jdm TRD. The US version was a hassle for me since the bolt backed out a lot.

norcalpb 06-23-2018 04:24 PM

Another way to get rid of the rattle is to put a french fry shaped foam piece inside of the spring itself. Maybe even try wrapping foam around the spring. This may provide enough insulation to block the rattle coming from the transmission.

wparsons 06-23-2018 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3102414)
Knowing Sti had this the day twins came out... you know the thing is designed with the car, but they are just too cheap to put it in. :thumbdown:

What does it have to do with them being cheap? A short shifter costs the same as the OEM shifter to produce.

The reason they don't come with an even shorter shifter stock than they do is because of driveability for average people.

Drive most other manual cars and you'll realize how short the stock shifter already is compared to the average manual car.


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