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Spuds 02-06-2018 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3040136)
Then it most likely still has something tweaked in the front, which could definitely affect the cars handling.

That brings up a point I was forgetting.

OP, If this is different than before the accident, bring it back to the shop that did the repairs and tell them they missed something. I'm assuming insurance took care of that bill? If it wasn't fully repaired that's a problem for them to fix.

Summerwolf 02-06-2018 09:55 PM

Well, to get something in to specs using a crash bolt means something else wouldn't come back in line 100%. It can still be considered a good repair, but obviously something is messed up.

What kind of measurements did they take during repair? Did they check the front subframe and make sure the strut towers were true?

What was actually fixed during the repair and what was the extent of damage? You said "slight" suspension damage, but it is very easy to miss things or do shoddy repairs, especially when trying to fix it as cheap as possible.

Summerwolf 02-06-2018 10:00 PM

Dude.... looking at your posts, airbags, door, fenders, seat and abs/ traction control problems. Is this a totalled car you're rebuilding? Or did you total it and buy it back / doing repairs yourself?

Spuds 02-06-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3040166)
Dude.... looking at your posts, airbags, door, fenders, seat and abs/ traction control problems. Is this a totalled car you're rebuilding? Or did you total it and buy it back / doing repairs yourself?

Lol nailed it.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124468

I'm all for helping a guy out, but I'd recommend letting us know what we are dealing with here so we don't waste ours and your time barking up the wrong tree.

Brzlimited661 02-06-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3040182)
Lol nailed it.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124468

I'm all for helping a guy out, but I'd recommend letting us know what we are dealing with here so we don't waste ours and your time barking up the wrong tree.

I purchased it from copart it was hit on the b piller door and fender was replaced side airbag deployed the car was totaled out but the suspension in the rear wasn't damaged and the front didnt have much damage at all.

humfrz 02-07-2018 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brzlimited661 (Post 3040213)
I purchased it from copart it was hit on the b piller door and fender was replaced side airbag deployed the car was totaled out but the suspension in the rear wasn't damaged and the front didnt have much damage at all.


DANG! ....... so, we get "the rest of the story" ...... you get a light :slap: for that ....... ;)

Maybe the frame is bent or is wonky. I'd suggest you take it to a frame shop to see what they have to say.


humfrz

Summerwolf 02-07-2018 09:04 AM

What kind of measurements did they take during repair? Did they check the front subframe and make sure the strut towers were true?

What was actually fixed during the repair and what was the extent of damage? You said "slight" suspension damage, but it is very easy to miss things or do shoddy repairs, especially when trying to fix it as cheap as possible.

I'll ask again, since I am genuinely curious.

I also noticed your caster is off a degree less on the drivers side, that could possibly indicate a control arm issue. I said possibly.

Spuds 02-07-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brzlimited661 (Post 3040213)
I purchased it from copart it was hit on the b piller door and fender was replaced side airbag deployed the car was totaled out but the suspension in the rear wasn't damaged and the front didnt have much damage at all.

B piller is pretty far back on this car. From the parts that are damaged it sounds more like an A piller collision?

I agree with @Summerwolf , you are likely looking at a control arm (or sway bar) issue if you are lucky. If you are unlucky it's probably a frame or upper mount issue.

Are you braking on the off ramps? In addition to a front suspension issue, there's a small possibility of a brake bias issue. I say that because that's also where the brake hydraulics are. It doesn't try to pull to one side or do anything funny when you press the brake pedal does it?

Brzlimited661 02-07-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3040316)
What kind of measurements did they take during repair? Did they check the front subframe and make sure the strut towers were true?

What was actually fixed during the repair and what was the extent of damage? You said "slight" suspension damage, but it is very easy to miss things or do shoddy repairs, especially when trying to fix it as cheap as possible.

I'll ask again, since I am genuinely curious.

I also noticed your caster is off a degree less on the drivers side, that could possibly indicate a control arm issue. I said possibly.

The door was replaced fender and the A pillar was pushed in the front driver side was tweaked slightly only thing the alignment shop told me needed replacing in the future was a ball joint.

Brzlimited661 02-07-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3040360)
B piller is pretty far back on this car. From the parts that are damaged it sounds more like an A piller collision?

I agree with @Summerwolf , you are likely looking at a control arm (or sway bar) issue if you are lucky. If you are unlucky it's probably a frame or upper mount issue.

Are you braking on the off ramps? In addition to a front suspension issue, there's a small possibility of a brake bias issue. I say that because that's also where the brake hydraulics are. It doesn't try to pull to one side or do anything funny when you press the brake pedal does it?

Sorry Typo i meant A pillar. No the brakes are solid the sway comes only during high speed off ramp freeway exits is when i only notice it. Ive tried going pretty fast around a corner outside of the freeway and could not replicate it.

Tcoat 02-07-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3040164)
Well, to get something in to specs using a crash bolt means something else wouldn't come back in line 100%. It can still be considered a good repair, but obviously something is messed up.

What kind of measurements did they take during repair? Did they check the front subframe and make sure the strut towers were true?

What was actually fixed during the repair and what was the extent of damage? You said "slight" suspension damage, but it is very easy to miss things or do shoddy repairs, especially when trying to fix it as cheap as possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3040316)
What kind of measurements did they take during repair? Did they check the front subframe and make sure the strut towers were true?

What was actually fixed during the repair and what was the extent of damage? You said "slight" suspension damage, but it is very easy to miss things or do shoddy repairs, especially when trying to fix it as cheap as possible.

I'll ask again, since I am genuinely curious.

I also noticed your caster is off a degree less on the drivers side, that could possibly indicate a control arm issue. I said possibly.

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Even using the bolt they still have not got it into spec really. There is something more severe that using a crash bolt just isn't going to correct.

Riftur 02-07-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3040385)
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Even using the bolt they still have not got it into spec really. There is something more severe that using a crash bolt just isn't going to correct.

Judging by everything I have read. It could be so many things causing this issue we could talk about it for days. Only thing you can do is a process of elimination. Measure one thing and keep going till you find it.

Tcoat 02-07-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 3040409)
Judging by everything I have read. It could be so many things causing this issue we could talk about it for days. Only thing you can do is a process of elimination. Measure one thing and keep going till you find it.

With the little info we have I am still putting my money on a tweaked sub frame that instead of being properly straightened was just adjusted with a bolt. Of course as you said there are many, many possibilities but this is my armchair diagnosis.

deejaylew 02-07-2018 12:37 PM

I stand by my earlier statement that the rear is not fully in alignment, Iv'e been down this road just trying to save you some time.

I pretty much knew you were dealing with a damaged vehicle from the original post. If someone comes back to you and tells you it is in alignment and your car is behaving in this manner, they don't have the tools to let you know what is actually happening.

Don't confuse me saying Alignment, with the service people offer called an alignment. That service is for vehicles that are relatively true to spec, a salvaged vehicle will take some real work.


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