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ZZT86 08-10-2018 09:45 AM

^^ that's fine but for those of you that often daily theirs & do repeated short trips is why the oil quickly grenades itself.

kch 08-10-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3119937)
Yeahhhh... I'm pretty sure that's not a problem. My oil gets to 270 on track days.

I wouldn't run my oil more than one weekend if my temps were getting that high. I have a Setrab 619 oil cooler and my temps max out around 230, so I feel more comfortable using the oil for multiple events.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 08-10-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3119937)
Yeahhhh... I'm pretty sure that's not a problem. My oil gets to 270 on track days.


That seems a little high to me, your car could benefit from an oil cooler.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 08-10-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by supercommode (Post 3032477)
Thanks everyone. Lot's of good info and opinions. I'm still deciding on which fuel to run primarily. The E-85 takes a big hit on mileage and I drive about a 100 miles a day. However, it's about $0.60 cheaper... At any rate. Thanks again.



I've used E85 heavily around 40k miles on my 86, with a similar setup to someone else having a CNT UEL and OFT. I used it locally and it was very fun, the extra power boost is intoxicating :lol:

I also calculated it was close to .90 cents cheaper than 93 most of the time so the mpg hit was slightly countered by cost.

If I ever plan to do a long distance trip thats more than 210 miles round trip, I fill with 93 and swap the tunes, that's assuming an over 35 percent range hit on the vehicle and that's a little on the high side estimate for me to be safe.

Also rather than than the 7500 miles change intervals I cut mine down to 4500, only because the oil consistency and smell had changed and I wanted to be safe. I haven't done an oil analysis but it doesn't hurt anything but my wallet to play it safe and shorten the intervals. I suggest you look into doing the same

Surok 08-14-2018 09:51 PM

i went back to 98 or as close as i could bear.. i got it down to E13... god 98 is SLOW! back to E85 for me!

ZZT86 08-14-2018 11:11 PM

I've been on E85 since 2014 . . . it's cleaner for the environment :D . . . our 98 is crap.

chaoskaze 08-31-2018 03:36 PM

Actually I got to e85 recently. Cuz I started running out of things to mod....lol

I noticed my oil is a lot more watery when cold. *it drips faster, but seems the same when hot.

Will report everything I notice long term wise + maybe oil report. :bonk:

jubella2 08-31-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3120180)

I also calculated it was close to .90 cents cheaper than 93 most of the time so the mpg hit was slightly countered by cost.

When I did the math I found E85 cost 11 cents per mile and 92 was 12 cents so it basically evens out.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 08-31-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jubella2 (Post 3128292)
When I did the math I found E85 cost 11 cents per mile and 92 was 12 cents so it basically evens out.


That's interesting, I had much better cost differences, 93-91 prices change so much more than e85 so I guess that helped. Also in my area there was only one racing fuel station with e85 so he would always competitively change prices.

Breadman 10-19-2018 08:16 PM

Here is my blackstone with 4 autocrosses on flex fuel. 2750 miles on 0w20 synpower

https://i.imgur.com/6CwtZDU.png

Sapphireho 10-19-2018 09:09 PM

With the supercharger, I tend to go thru tires much quicker and have more wrinkles on my face from smiling when I run e85.

Lantanafrs2 10-20-2018 11:45 AM

The only long term problem for me is the desire for more power. Header made it better but will a snail make it wail?

DandoX 09-04-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 3119786)
I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is still concerned with long-term use of E85, this is the most recent UOA I have after using E85 for roughly 40k miles.


Sorry to revive an old thread, just saw this and that Black Stone report looks great. Mind giving an update now? Also what kit/tune are you using?


I'm running 0w40, do you think that would change how it reacts with E85?

kch 09-04-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3254245)
Sorry to revive an old thread, just saw this and that Black Stone report looks great. Mind giving an update now? Also what kit/tune are you using?


I'm running 0w40, do you think that would change how it reacts with E85?

Oil weight should make no difference w/r/t E85. I was using the moto-east kit with the evap harness, tuned on ecutek.

Sadly, I moved up to the PNW where E85 is hard to come by, and I stopped using it. But E85 never caused me any problems.


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