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supercommode 01-23-2018 05:17 PM

Thanks everyone. Lot's of good info and opinions. I'm still deciding on which fuel to run primarily. The E-85 takes a big hit on mileage and I drive about a 100 miles a day. However, it's about $0.60 cheaper... At any rate. Thanks again.

Surok 01-23-2018 06:48 PM

its not worth it if you are going to do big mileage. sorry.
your mpg will take a 30% hit.

Submarinesonce 01-24-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Surok (Post 3032529)
its not worth it if you are going to do big mileage. sorry.
your mpg will take a 30% hit.

i do 100 miles a day, I just fuel up every other day instead of every third day....its still cheaper for me to run e85 than 93 per mile

reeves 01-24-2018 10:20 AM

I did ~80 miles a day for a couple of years too when I first bought my car.. Fueled up every 2 days too on E85.
I wasn't worried about MPG though.. too busy driving the snot out of it. :burnrubber:

carsebuco 01-25-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Submarinesonce (Post 3032789)
i do 100 miles a day, I just fuel up every other day instead of every third day....its still cheaper for me to run e85 than 93 per mile

Where I live, it ends up being same cost per mile. You fill up more often with e85, but it's priced much lower and a lot more fun.

Never going back to 91 unless on trips.

Breadman 07-24-2018 10:39 AM

Hate to be that guy but ethanol is pH neutral, so how is e85 acidic?



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Originally Posted by housecat (Post 3031819)
I found a good read-up here: http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/bl...-running-e-85/

In case the link breaks, here's a copy-paste:


TLDR; E85 is acidic, hygroscopic, and more acidic when water-contaminated. Acid in the oil can hurt lubrication ability and corrode metal parts. Since the 86 isn't E85 compatible from the factory, it may not be as resistant to acid wear (citation needed). Frequent oil changes is good insurance when running E85, but likely not necessary in factory flex-fuel fitted vehicles.

From a personal experience, I can smell ethanol in my oil during an oil change. I don't have oil analysis data, but the smell is obvious. The presence of ethanol doesn't necessarily mean it hurt my car, but I'd rather be safe than sorry until we have more data about E85 reliability in the 86.


kch 08-09-2018 04:46 PM

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I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is still concerned with long-term use of E85, this is the most recent UOA I have after using E85 for roughly 40k miles.

chaoskaze 08-09-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Surok (Post 3031398)
http://www.vpracing.com.au/product/vp-m2c try about 300ML in 1 tank of E85 :)

I don't know why nobody clicked thank on that post. *Clicking intensify


:thumbup:

Pat 08-09-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kch (Post 3119786)
I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is still concerned with long-term use of E85, this is the most recent UOA I have after using E85 for roughly 40k miles.

How many track days were on this sample?

kch 08-09-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3119797)
How many track days were on this sample?

Dunno for sure. Between 5 and 7.

Pat 08-09-2018 07:46 PM

Whoa, nice. I've never done an oil analysis, but change it every track weekend. Maybe I'll go longer now. I use Mobil 1, too.

ZZT86 08-09-2018 09:59 PM

If you get the oil hot, ie: 212F, it will last longer ;) . . . with the proviso that the tune isn't overly rich.

reeves 08-09-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3119787)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Surok (Post 3031398)
http://www.vpracing.com.au/product/vp-m2c try about 300ML in 1 tank of E85 :)

I don't know why nobody clicked thank on that post. *Clicking intensify

:thumbup:


I'm more worried about the additives than the E85 itself :D

I guess only time will tell...

Pat 08-09-2018 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 3119889)
If you get the oil hot, ie: 212F, it will last longer ;) . . . with the proviso that the tune isn't overly rich.

Yeahhhh... I'm pretty sure that's not a problem. My oil gets to 270 on track days.


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