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tyler_win_photo 01-16-2018 12:29 AM

Oil Cooler FI
 
I was planning on hitting the track next season which means I'll need an oil cooler for sure. Currently I'm running an AVO turbo kit, and so I was wondering if mounting an oil cooler directly in front of the intercooler would have any adverse affect on the intercooler performing its job. Would I see a noticeable difference in charge air temperatures?

Also I was considering the Maximal Performance oil cooler which runs a 13 row Setrab core, similar to Perrin's. I've been reading around the forums and have heard some people saying the 13 row Setrab unit was enough cooling for FI on the track, while others are saying it's not enough. What oil coolers are you FI guys running on the track? I live in Washington so track day temperatures typically reach at most 90F.

Barefootdan 01-16-2018 10:36 AM

I know that someone with an edelbrock kit noticed an increase of IAT when having the oil cooler directly in front of his LTR. Being an air to water setup, is not sure how much it will effect air to air, but it is noticeable. Jackson racing places their oil coolers behind the intercooler, for what its worth. I think if you leave adequate space between the intercooler and oil cooler, along with keep your air flow foam piece in place, you should be okay. Probably an increase of IAT, but nothing to worry much about.

CSG Mike 01-16-2018 12:11 PM

A 13 row Setrab is not enough, if you're a decently fast driver.

sw20kosh 01-16-2018 03:13 PM

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Dual series 9 setrab 25 row cores (I have since determined that dual series 6 cores may be sufficient and would fit with a bumper crash beam).
Harrop Supercharger 15 psi.

Series 6 13 row will definitely not be enough unless you are a beginner. As you get faster, you will outgrow it fast.

Placing it in front of the intercooler will super heat the intercooler core. The oil cooler sheds a ton of heat and it will go directly into anything behind it. I would recommend placing your oil cooler/coolers in the side vents.

-Phil 01-16-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 3028802)
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Dual series 9 setrab 25 row cores (I have since determined that dual series 6 cores may be sufficient and would fit with a bumper crash beam).
Harrop Supercharger 15 psi.

Series 6 13 row will definitely not be enough unless you are a beginner. As you get faster, you will outgrow it fast.

Placing it in front of the intercooler will super heat the intercooler core. The oil cooler sheds a ton of heat and it will go directly into anything behind it. I would recommend placing your oil cooler/coolers in the side vents.

What are you doing for brake ducting if any?

-Phil

sw20kosh 01-16-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by -Phil (Post 3028898)
What are you doing for brake ducting if any?

-Phil

Nothing. The Brembo Club Race kit with the large brake rotor is holding up fine.

tyler_win_photo 01-16-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 3028802)
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b2&oe=5AFBD4F7

https://scontent.fsjc1-3.fna.fbcdn.n...07&oe=5AB6B0CD

Dual series 9 setrab 25 row cores (I have since determined that dual series 6 cores may be sufficient and would fit with a bumper crash beam).
Harrop Supercharger 15 psi.

Series 6 13 row will definitely not be enough unless you are a beginner. As you get faster, you will outgrow it fast.

Placing it in front of the intercooler will super heat the intercooler core. The oil cooler sheds a ton of heat and it will go directly into anything behind it. I would recommend placing your oil cooler/coolers in the side vents.

Would you recommend ducting or opening up the side marker hole for airflow to the cooler or would it be adequate as is

tyler_win_photo 01-16-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3028698)
A 13 row Setrab is not enough, if you're a decently fast driver.

How about a Mishimoto 19 row? Or what other units would you recommend?

CSG Mike 01-16-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler_win_photo (Post 3028993)
How about a Mishimoto 19 row? Or what other units would you recommend?

Your AVO kit precludes you from using any off-the-shelf oil cooler, except the AVO oil cooler. Sorry, but you gotta build your own, or modify one to work for you, if you want to go a different route.

PM me to order the AVO oil cooler.

tyler_win_photo 01-16-2018 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3029005)
Your AVO kit precludes you from using any off-the-shelf oil cooler, except the AVO oil cooler. Sorry, but you gotta build your own, or modify one to work for you, if you want to go a different route.

PM me to order the AVO oil cooler.

Wait why is that?

CSG Mike 01-17-2018 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler_win_photo (Post 3029013)
Wait why is that?

You have an intercooler in the way; it occupies the space most oil coolers want to also occupy.

Luftwaffel 01-17-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 3028802)
Placing it in front of the intercooler will super heat the intercooler core. The oil cooler sheds a ton of heat and it will go directly into anything behind it. I would recommend placing your oil cooler/coolers in the side vents.

Just wondering, since I've been planning on going with that exact core, how did you mount your cores?

sw20kosh 01-17-2018 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler_win_photo (Post 3028992)
Would you recommend ducting or opening up the side marker hole for airflow to the cooler or would it be adequate as is

Yes I have both coolers as well as the radiator completely sealed off with ducting to to their respective bumper openings. The heat shed by the cores flows through the space under the headlights, into the engine bay, and out the hood vents. Highly recommend hood vents especially on a FI setup to release the high pressure that builds up and pull air through all the cores.

sw20kosh 01-17-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Luftwaffel (Post 3029231)
Just wondering, since I've been planning on going with that exact core, how did you mount your cores?

L brackets to mounting points on chassis and AC condenser brackets.


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