Rolled on Tremclad primer. "Temporary" paint job that I had for 4 years I owned it. The last I saw the car a couple of years ago it was still rocking the same primer after 12 years.

Newer matte cars do have a specialized matte clear coat, I understand the confusion that matte paint is just normal paint with clear, but that’s simply not the case anymore. Not for professional matte paints like Volkswagens, Lexus, Lamborghini. They do still take a fair bit more to take care of but a work around is to ceramic coat the matte and then you can clean it more like a normal car and with the benefits of a ceramic coat in general.

No confusion on my part, I know the new ones are covered with a clear-coat, I was just saying I've never seen one I cared for. Completely personal preference. What is some people's "Awesome!" is another's "Unfinished!".

Similar reason to me not liking Silver/Gray or white cars. They scream "fleetmobile" to me.

LOL Even they don't even know what to call the colour!

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I have to agree. My 2013 FRS with 20K on the odo still has lots of life, plenty of go and worthy of my attention. Looking at the new FRS/BRZ's there's just nothing tempting enough to even consider an "upgrade." Love my FRS and still consider it to be one of the finest, affordable rides out there. Toyota/Subaru did right with this one.

I'm a huge fan of non-metallic grey colors on cars... If it's half as good as the one on this Challenger or the one Audi is using right now, it should be a great addition to the lineup.

https://i.imgur.com/BbeoHRN.jpg

But the loss of Hot Lava is sad...

Good thing I got one years ago! :thumbup:

We need better photos than what Toyota of North Hollywood has provided, that's for sure...

Better grab those 860s *cough* "salmon orange" though

More photos can be found here!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/searc...rchid=17565611

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=294

http://i68.tinypic.com/1zt1sk.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/i1a613.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/15ogco7.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/mj4fi8.jpg

Wow thats a very nice colour :thumbsup:

The big issue with colours on monitors is of course that we all see something different.

I think it's safe to say that I see the truest of colours on all of my devices. I shall be the judge of anything posted, right after I get home and can see imgur pictures, because imgur blocked on work network :x

Please describe blue as if I had never seen it before. You can not use any examples of something that is blue.

That feeling you get when Mrs. Tcoat hasn't given it up for over a month.

In a Philosophy class in college (and yes, I had Socrates as a professor) I once wrote a paper arguing that color is relative because it is a concept and not a hard fact. It would be very possible for the world to exist where, even though we all saw the sky as "blue" if you saw it through my eyes the way I see it you might think it was "red".

This ^
There were two tricks to my question. The perception of individuals is one of them.
Even if every single person did perceive colour exactly the same it still impossible to describe a colour without using some form of example. This also goes back to it being a concept not a physical element. Try it.

Mmm.. we're still talking about cars right? :) and drifting the naners off of them?

One man's perfect drift is another man's inefficient route around a track.

...in bed ;)

That colour looks a LOT like the Cool Grey Khaki colour that the 2018 Subaru Crosstrek picked up.

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that is a nice color.

it is

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=63

it's a blue-ish gray .... depending on how light hits it. When it's dark out, it looks more gray ... at least that's my take on it, not seeing it in person

Silly question but can someone explain the difference between the 86 Gt trim level vs the 86 Gt black trim level in the usa?

Taken straight from their website:

-Heated power outside mirrors in Raven black
-Matte-black rear wing with aerodynamic end plates and supports in Raven black


The only 2 things I'd actually want from the non-US version (the wheels and brake upgrade) are not included. I don't know if marketing at Toyota is even trying anymore.

The sad part is that the marketing department probably poured a million yen or more into surveys, focus groups, web monitoring (including here so HI MARKETING GUYS oh wait...
こんにちはマーケティングの男性) and other data collection services and this is what all that info told them the public wants.

Dare I say they are also setting themselves up for failure by doing that. Dealerships nearby had no 2017s in stock almost all year. Just one within a 100 mile radius. They may have learned their lesson, or sales just dropped off hard enough that they don't see a reason to order them in my area.

They seem to be holding up as well as anything else in the segment for 2017. The 86 is only an 8% drop over 16 and the BRZ held even.


The whole category is taking a shit kicking in sales.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...nt/#more-48718


Not nearly as bad as the larger segment though. The mighty mustang was down 24% and the Z4 well over half.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...nt/#more-48736


Sales in 2017 were down by more than 10% almost across the board with the only segments showing any real growth being pickup trucks.


The point being that sales figures can not be looked at in isolation since they can be very deceiving.