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jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com 01-11-2018 07:25 AM

hoping some one could tell me how can i be faster on track
 
hoping someone can tell me how can i improve my lap time
this is Vancouver Island Motorsport Circuit
i am running on stock tires and also had it for drift school
so i dont have lot of grip
want do some mod for my car
tire for sure anything else
i ordered mxp rs ti exhaust already
any intake opinion?
anything technical about driving abilities first mod second
dont really wanna mod the car too much
since i like the stock setup

after intake and tires

what can i do about engine ?

no turbo or supercharge
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13lZnjhTLsE[/ame]

TommyW 01-11-2018 07:55 AM

Don't throw parts on your car to become a better driver. You need to get coaching. This will be the best mod you can do. As far as tires, leaving the stockers on is the best way to learn proper technique. They allow you to get comfortable with big slip angles so that when you put sticky tires on it'll be no big deal when you step out a bit. It's much easier to learn to rotate the car also with stock tires. The Skid pad is your best friend so use it. If you had gone to Skippy School you'd find that they teach on hard tires so that students learn the basics faster and they do this for a reason.

Bottom line is car mods can come much later. The 86 platform is great right out of the box .

ermax 01-11-2018 10:22 AM

I agree with Tommy. Driver is where the most time can be found. After that I would do tires. Tires will drop more time than exhaust by a long shot.

Too bad that video is so washed out. It's hard to even see your lines in that video.

I would also suggest a racing sim. Not Forza or Gran Turismo but a real sim like rFactor2. I did a quick search and this track isn't available in rF2 unfortunately.

Tcoat 01-11-2018 02:08 PM

There is no intake on the market which will give any real gains over the 2017 stock version.
As the guys said you should look at mods after you reach a point where your driving skills have exceeded the cars abilities. That may be a ways off yet.

Sapphireho 01-11-2018 02:13 PM

Drive, drive, then drive some more.

TommyW 01-11-2018 02:42 PM

It's fun to throw parts on cars no doubt about it. The question is always "What are my goals?". Stoplight racing then power is your friend, looks? Then whatever you deem to be attractive to look at. Driving on a track and some parts can actually make you a worse driver. A bigger rear bar for example can balance out some understeer however you have the potential to make your car too loose and that will just slow you down overall.

So many times understeer is a product of improper technique and guys just throw on a rear bar and figure the job is done. This is just 1 example of many that guys get wrong.....

TommyW 01-11-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3026788)
Drive, drive, then drive some more.

This is very true however driving and continuing to make the same mistakes only serves to ingrain bad habits so this is why good coaching is so important. Most HPDE events have good coaches included in the cost so use those guys! But if you get one that tells you never to trail brake get a different instructor.

Sapphireho 01-11-2018 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3026814)
This is very true however driving and continuing to make the same mistakes only serves to ingrain bad habits so this is why good coaching is so important. Most HPDE events have good coaches included in the cost so use those guys!


!00% agree.

Tokay444 01-11-2018 02:53 PM

Pay for driving instruction.

Leonardo 01-11-2018 07:34 PM

Practice and instruction will make you faster.




Went to go kart track. Drove a few laps. My lap time got better each time. Then a fellow Forum member gave me a few tips, and my times started going down even more.


It will be obvious when your skill has increased and you "need" to upgrade your car to be faster. Start saving your money now!

Mr.ac 01-11-2018 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3026788)
Drive, drive, then drive some more.

That is the key. You can't buy your way into fast times. Your driving sucks, but you can get better.

jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com 01-12-2018 04:20 PM

totally agreed
the reason for me to change the exhaust is my car self slide into the rocks at xmas nite
parking the car on the icy downhill driveway(not really downhill maybe just bad luck) , and it just happened.
i got wut u mean, i did drive with one of the driving instructor. and he said if he driving my car, it may just be quick a bit but not much tho.
he even talk to other instructor that

this is my second ft86, in the video it was my first frs , now i am driving Toyota 86
i still think there is 20 % potential i dont get. i think it should be the slide in the corner like little drift but still worried about myself cant handle that. this is why i still with gt86 not change to sti !
like u said , If your car feels like it's on rails in corners you aren't going fast enough
or maybe braking more harder at braking zone.

there is only one thing he said, i got tooo much under steering should slow in fast out
but in the video u can see, my only way to stay with that md is faster entry the corner otherwise i will lost it.
in the uphill and straight i cant keep up with him!
i know slow in fast out tho
he suggest me to change the tire to improve the track time.

TommyW 01-12-2018 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayliu.jiayu@gamil.com (Post 3027365)
,

there is only one thing he said, i got tooo much under steering should slow in fast out

i know slow in fast out tho
he suggest me to change the tire to improve the track time.

Slow in fast out is a term used often and it can be mis represented. Too slow in and too fast back on throttle mid corner and you'll get understeer due to weight transfer going to the rear and coming off the front. On corners that you're getting understeer it helps to trail brake, sometimes all the way to the apex, Not much, just enough to keep the front tires loaded up then when going back to throttle do it smoothly otherwise you'll go back to an understeer condition on exit

ermax 01-13-2018 09:42 AM

hoping some one could tell me how can i be faster on track
 
If the turn is followed by a long straight then slow in fast out is typically better. It lets you get back on the throttle sooner which pays off on the straight. This may be why the ND was walking you on straights. Maybe the instructor recognized this which I why he made that recommendation.


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