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DesertLava 01-06-2018 08:14 PM

Scraped my frame. It's now showing bare paint. Repair needed?
 
To start, I live in a desert like climate (SoCal). Not a lot of rain/snow here... Only in some mountain areas. Definitely no salt. Not coastal either. I think it's my frame or part of it.

Is this part replaceable? Or is it the actual frame? If it's replaceable, I think I'll let it be and replace it if needed.

Do I need to do anything to prevent rusting?

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new2subaru 01-06-2018 08:33 PM

If you're concerned about it

http://www.rona.ca/images/03305862a_L.jpg

Mr.ac 01-06-2018 08:59 PM

It's totaled. No bother in trying to sell it just take scrap yard to be crushed.
Buy a civic. Problem solved.

DesertLava 01-06-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3024800)
It's totaled. No bother in trying to sell it just take scrap yard to be crushed.
Buy a civic. Problem solved.

The Si has more torque, it's a better track car than the 86.

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FirstWinter 01-06-2018 09:09 PM

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The Si has more torque, it's a better track car than the 86.

Hold up there buddy. Them's fighting words. :fighting0040:

humfrz 01-06-2018 11:52 PM

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To start, I live in a desert like climate (SoCal). ............

First off, DesertLava, don't be taken that vehicle off road. You should get a different vehicle (and maybe a different co-pilot) for those kinds of adventures ..... ;)

As far as the skinned up under pieces under your car, I suggest you just hit it with some good old fashioned Rust-Oleum.


:D


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Tcoat 01-07-2018 01:57 AM

Judging from the pristine bolt heads rust will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, be an issue for you. I wouldn't even bother touching it up if it was me in your position.

Ultramaroon 01-07-2018 02:03 AM

ever

Tcoat 01-07-2018 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3024906)
ever

Never ever

humfrz 01-07-2018 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3024909)
Never ever

Yep, I reckon that would be so, down in the desert ...... so, why take a chance on getting bit by a rattlesnake by crawling under your car ...... :iono:


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DesertLava 01-07-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3024905)
Judging from the pristine bolt heads rust will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, be an issue for you. I wouldn't even bother touching it up if it was me in your position.

975 miles on the ODO explains the clean bolt heads. Do you recommend anything in particular if I was going to attend to it?

Thanks!

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Tcoat 01-07-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3024983)
975 miles on the ODO explains the clean bolt heads. Do you recommend anything in particular if I was going to attend to it?

Thanks!

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If can't be sen unless laying on the ground I would just use this stuff.

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7a9...0&odnBg=FFFFFF

DesertLava 01-07-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3024984)
If can't be sen unless laying on the ground I would just use this stuff.

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7a9...0&odnBg=FFFFFF

Got it. Any need to prep the area? And what's the longevity of this stuff? Reapply every year or couple years?

Out of curiosity, is it part of the frame? Or just something that can be replaced as a single piece that just attaches to the frame?

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Tcoat 01-07-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3024985)
Got it. Any need to prep the area? And what's the longevity of this stuff? Reapply every year or couple years?

Out of curiosity, is it part of the frame? Or just something that can be replaced as a single piece that just attaches to the frame?

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Make sure it is clean and dry . Mask off around it so you don't have over-spray where you don't want it and give it a couple of light coats. It is durable stuff and will last the life of the car (If you don'r scrape again).

The close up pics make it very difficult to tell exactly where it is but I would guess it is indeed structural and would be a pain to replace. No point in messing with it.

Cole 01-07-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3024985)
Got it. Any need to prep the area? And what's the longevity of this stuff? Reapply every year or couple years?

Out of curiosity, is it part of the frame? Or just something that can be replaced as a single piece that just attaches to the frame?

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It would need to be cut out and a new piece welded in.

cjd 01-07-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3024985)
Got it. Any need to prep the area? And what's the longevity of this stuff? Reapply every year or couple years?

Out of curiosity, is it part of the frame? Or just something that can be replaced as a single piece that just attaches to the frame?

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I usually do a spot check and paint on rust bubbles every spring when I go over the car to prepare for the season. Wire brush to clean, and brush on a couple coats ~30 min apart (I use disposable foam brushes for this). In general, if you catch it before any rust forms it's rather unlikely you'll have problems; the paint should last for years. And it's super easy to brush and touch up. I do recommend a can + brush over spray just to keep overspray from getting where you didn't intend (like your lungs or face if working under the car...)

That's the front radiator support, is it not? I don't think that's structural beyond holding up parts. It's also therefore not remotely worth swapping out. And if I got the piece wrong and it is structural, it's still not worth swapping out. Clean it up, repaint.

If the color really bugs you, you could pull the underbody panels and prep the entire width of the piece and paint it all black to line up with the panels or something... just make it look intentional. All good to go.

humfrz 01-07-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3024985)
Got it. Any need to prep the area? And what's the longevity of this stuff? Reapply every year or couple years?

Out of curiosity, is it part of the frame? Or just something that can be replaced as a single piece that just attaches to the frame?

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For cryen out loud, DesertLava, you are waaaaaaay overthinking this situation...... :confused0068:

If you want to do something, just prep the area with alcohol then paint it with something ....... anything ........ even red barn paint ........ :D


humfrz

Ultramaroon 01-07-2018 04:09 PM

Just save the can because a month from now you'll scratch it again.

DesertLava 01-07-2018 04:11 PM

Scraped my frame. It's now showing bare paint. Repair needed?
 
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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 3025009)
I usually do a spot check and paint on rust bubbles every spring when I go over the car to prepare for the season. Wire brush to clean, and brush on a couple coats ~30 min apart (I use disposable foam brushes for this). In general, if you catch it before any rust forms it's rather unlikely you'll have problems; the paint should last for years. And it's super easy to brush and touch up. I do recommend a can + brush over spray just to keep overspray from getting where you didn't intend (like your lungs or face if working under the car...)

That's the front radiator support, is it not? I don't think that's structural beyond holding up parts. It's also therefore not remotely worth swapping out. And if I got the piece wrong and it is structural, it's still not worth swapping out. Clean it up, repaint.

If the color really bugs you, you could pull the underbody panels and prep the entire width of the piece and paint it all black to line up with the panels or something... just make it look intentional. All good to go.

Do you recommend Rust-Oleum paint or any kind of paint will do? And I think you're right, it may be the front radiator support.

Thanks

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Ernest72 01-07-2018 06:22 PM

POR-15 the whole car.

cjd 01-07-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3025060)
Do you recommend Rust-Oleum paint or any kind of paint will do? And I think you're right, it may be the front radiator support.

Thanks

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I use the brand name, but anything similar will do. I mean, you probably don't want to use latex or something, stick with paint intended for underbody rust treatment. And get the small can, it usually doesn't last forever on the shelf.

Ultramaroon 01-07-2018 07:35 PM

Don't forget to finish with a good clear coat.

humfrz 01-08-2018 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3025126)
Don't forget to finish with a good clear coat.

Hesh up ...... Ultramaroon ....... that suggestion will just bring up dozens of more questions ....... :popcorn:


humfrz

humfrz 01-08-2018 12:25 AM

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I use the brand name, but anything similar will do. I mean, you probably don't want to use latex or something, stick with paint intended for underbody rust treatment. And get the small can, it usually doesn't last forever on the shelf.

You don't say .........:eyebulge:


humfrz

DesertLava 01-08-2018 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3025126)
Don't forget to finish with a good clear coat.



If I'm going to take care of this scrape and paint it and put on clear coat, I should probably put quality clear coat on all my paint. Two clear coats is better that the crappy OEM clear coat. Do you recommend just two? Or could I do like 86?


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cjd 01-08-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3025277)
If I'm going to take care of this scrape and paint it and put on clear coat, I should probably put quality clear coat on all my paint. Two clear coats is better that the crappy OEM clear coat. Do you recommend just two? Or could I do like 86?


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Don't do that. You can not improve on what they do at the factory. That's not to say better clear isn't possible, but not with an assembled car.

Just do the area you're repainting. Make sure to use the same type of paint (enamel in this case)

DesertLava 01-08-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 3025307)
Don't do that. You can not improve on what they do at the factory. That's not to say better clear isn't possible, but not with an assembled car.

Just do the area you're repainting. Make sure to use the same type of paint (enamel in this case)

Sorry CJD I was being sarcastic in my reply to maroon haha. I'm sticking with your recommendation. Quick wire brush clean and brushing a couple coats. Thanks for providing great advice!

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cjd 01-08-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3025349)
Sorry CJD I was being sarcastic in my reply to maroon haha. I'm sticking with your recommendation. Quick wire brush clean and brushing a couple coats. Thanks for providing great advice!

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I was going to say 'in for results' of clear-coating the car with a 1" disposable brush and rust-oleum clearcoat.

I've used their clear (spray) enamel on my RacerX rear LCA's, which I got before they were anodizing anything, so they were raw aluminum. It has helped, but road debris has made the front of the arms pockmarked. Not much to do about it.

Ultramaroon 01-08-2018 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertLava (Post 3025277)
If I'm going to take care of this scrape and paint it and put on clear coat, I should probably put quality clear coat on all my paint. Two clear coats is better that the crappy OEM clear coat. Do you recommend just two? Or could I do like 86?

lol Well done. You're gonna do great here. Welcome and congrats on getting the second best color. :cheers:


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