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Stolen from a bodyshop in Brampton on Monday...

I know this is the wrong section of the forum but this section gets a lot more views so please just keep a look out.
I don't have comprehensive insurance, so I am royally fucked, arguing with bodyshop now how the hell it could get stolen.


Stock everything but key features are
-black exhaust tips
-tinted windows
-Catless with exhaust leak so it sounds bad

Damn, sorry to hear. No cams at the shop?

Surely the shop would have coverage for this sort of thing no?

Sorry to hear, but I'll keep an eye out in the other end of the city.

As a side note, could this not be claimed through the bodyshop's insurance?

Would this not be on the bodyshops insurance? I would contact a lawyer if I were you.

Took a screenshot of your license plate - will keep a look out in the West End (Milton, Oakville, Sauga).

I agree with @Slammillionaire - the body shop should be taking responsibility for any damage or theft.

What is the bodyshops name? Saw a wrb brz this mornig 403 erin mills dunno if you have valenti tails.

This sucks. I always feared of getting my car stolen, specially after reading how bad it is for type-r cars that is one of the most jacked car. I hope the twins doesn't get added to the list.

On the side note, which body shop is it. I don't want to speculate, but it could be an inside job also. Somebody took the keys, came back in the night and stole the car and returned the key next morning and acted shocked (this happened somewhere I used to work)

Damn! Sorry to hear! I'll keep an eye out also in my area!

He needs to check the fine print on any service agreement he signed. If it says anything like "Not responsible for loss through theft, damage, etc" he is screwed. If there is no signed agreement or responsibility statement then he may be able to go after them. If there is he is screwed since he signed a legal agreement.
There are only two ways these cars can be stolen. They can be driven away by starting them with a key that has the chip in it or they can be towed away without hope of starting it. If driven away it will probably turn up but may not be in the best of shape. If towed away it is in a bunch of parts by now and will never be seen again. It is way too much expense and trouble for anybody to try to change the system for another key to work. Thieves are not know to invest money into their stolen goods.
There is zero way to hotwire, jimmy the ignition or in any other way start these without a key or fob.

Bodyshop name is Skyway Truck Center Inc, the guy mostly does trucks - one of my good friends recommended me to that guy and said he would do bumper and trd spoiler paint for me for a good price...

Camera footage of someone jumping the fence a 11:40am on Monday while the keys are still inside (apparently they were rearranging cars in the lot and the keys were inside). This honestly seems like a hollywood scene because why would the guy jump the fence when he could just walk around... it's an open area.

The bodyshop owner said he would go through his insurance but my gut feeling is telling me this is an inside job and he ain't going to claim shit. How did he not notice the car was missing for almost 3 days... I was supposed to pick up the car on Monday, he said it wasn't ready, then Tuesday said it wasn't ready... then Wednesday calls me asking if I took the car back - turns out "stolen"

Price was too good to be true.

Made a post in the Milton 86 club FB page for members to keep an eye out - hopefully your car is found safe.


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Best of luck getting your car back! I'll keep an eye out here too.

If it's outside their insurance doesn't cover it, same goes for dealerships. Someone I know had the rims stolen off their STI while at a dealership and it fell on their insurance to replace and repair.

Sounds like an inside job for sure. Took him 3 days to realized your BRZ is gone?
Fuck that shit dude, he's playing stupid with you.
And left the keys inside? Irresponsible piece of shit.

Sounds like some grade A negligence. As I stated before, talk to a lawyer ASAP and figure out your options before you make any decisions or talk to the shop again.

Also this goes without saying but I am going to say it anyway. Make sure you had a police report filed so that they have the story in writing on what the owner said has happened.

Holy shit, this is actually the first time I've heard of one being stolen.
Keeping an eye out, but your car looks pretty stock, which makes it harder

Just wanted to clarify some stuff regarding the insurance. First of all your biggest hurdle will be justifying care, custody and or control. This can be done with a receipt or even aknowledgment from someone from the shop that your vehicle was there, anything will do as case law shows that when a claimant is the plaintiff the courts will often side with the loss party. Next you will need at least to get the shops policy number and insurance company. You can wait for the shop to open a claim but statements of claim work a lot faster :P
The garage policy is a standardized wording called OAP 4 the section you will be interested in is section 6, I have copy and pasted the exact wordings below.
Collision or Upset 6.1 The Insurer agrees, 6.1.1 to pay on behalf of the Insured, all sums which the Insured is legally obligated to pay in respect of loss or damage to a customer’s automobile, including its equipment while attached to the automobile, and including reimbursement of expenses incurred for taxicabs, public transportation or rental of a substitute automobile as a result of COLLISION OR UPSET - caused by collision with another object or by upset; and 6.1.2 to pay to the Insurer of a customer’s automobile the amount paid by that Insurer because of the operation of section 263 of the Insurance Act and the Fault Determination Rules made under that section, based on the degree that the Insured or driver was at fault in the accident. Exclusions 6.2 THE INSURER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE under subsection 6.1 (Collision or Upset), (a) for any amount in excess of the limit stated in Item 5, subsection 6.1 of Section 6 of the Certificate of Insurance and of the expenditures provided for in the Additional Agreements of this Section; or (b) for loss or damage to contents of automobiles or trailers other than their equipment, except as provided under subsection 6.1.2; or (c) for loss or damage which occurs after theft of the automobile and before recovery by the Insured; or (d) for loss or damage caused directly or indirectly by contamination by radioactive material. Deductible 6.3 Each occurrence causing loss or damage covered under subsection 6.1 (Collision or Upset) shall give rise to a separate claim. The Insurer’s liability for each claim shall be limited to the amount of loss or damage in excess of the deductible amount payable by the Insured as stated in Item 5, subsection 6.1 of Section 6 of the Certificate of Insurance. Where section 263 of the Insurance Act (Direct Compensation – Property Damage) applies, the deductible amount is the amount stated in Item 5, subsection 6.1 of Section 6 of the Certificate of Insurance multiplied by the percentage to which the Insured or driver is at fault as determined by the Fault Determination Rules made under the Insurance Act. Specified Perils 6.4 The Insurer agrees to pay on behalf of the Insured, all sums which the Insured is legally obligated to pay in respect of loss of or damage to a customer’s automobile, including its equipment while attached to the automobile, and including reimbursement of expenses incurred for taxicabs, public transportation or rental of a substitute automobile, for SPECIFIED PERILS - caused by fire; theft or attempted theft; vandalism; lightning, windstorm, hail, or rising water; earthquake; explosion; riot or civil disturbance; falling or forced landing of aircraft or parts of aircraft; or the stranding, sinking, burning, derailment, or collision or upset of any railway car or watercraft in, or upon which the automobile is being transported. Limits of Liability Under subsection 6.4 6.5 SUBJECT TO SUBSECTION 6.8 (CO-INSURANCE CLAUSE), THE INSURER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE under subsection 6.4 (Specified Perils) in respect of any one occurrence for: (a) any amount in excess of the limits of liability stated in Item 5, subsection 6.4 of Section 6 of the Certificate of Insurance at each specified location and of expenditures provided for in the Additional Agreements of this Section; (b) any amount at a newly acquired location in excess of the lowest limit of liability stated for any specified location; (c) loss or damage to more than four automobiles at any location not used by the Insured in the business specified in Item 3 of the Certificate of Insurance. Exclusions 6.6 THE INSURER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE under subsection 6.4 (Specified Perils) for loss or damage, (a) from the explosion of tires or from explosion within the combustion chamber of the engine of the automobile, unless the loss or damage is coincident with other loss or damage covered by subsection 6.4; (b) caused directly or indirectly by contamination by radioactive material; (c) caused by theft from any open lot or unroofed space owned, rented or controlled by the Insured, except the theft of an entire automobile; (d) to the contents of automobiles or trailers, other than their equipment; or (e) for more than $25 for recorded material and equipment for use with a playing or recording unit.

Hope this helps, I work in insurance but I do what’s called bodily injury which is third party liability in regards to injuries, this is a little different but it’s what I did when I first started in insurance!

Thief is trying to part out my car on kijiji, police are working on the case.

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Chop shop guy in a van

one of my buddy sent me a kijiji link about a BRZ parting out in mississauga, that is probably yours

its pretty stupid to steal a car and part it out in the same province, the 86 community in GTA in pretty small

That was a bit hard to read but weeding through it to the relevant sections leaves things even less clear. One section seems to rule out the other. It is insured if the whole vehicle is stolen but damage inflicted after it is stolen and recovered is not covered? Did I read it all wrong?

I do know that several years ago my father's car was stolen from a garage lot and it was not covered since the service agreement said they were not responsible. That was a while back and the rules may have changed but we all know that insurance companies have language that protects them when they can. In this case there was no such agreement so maybe it will fly.

The oddest part of that whole thing was the very specific statements on coverage for radioactive contamination. Is this a big problem that we are not aware of?

I sent him message too regarding parts just asking for truck and random parts. He said it's blue BRZ. He replied with the name of Arsy Reyaz. He has deleted his add now and not replying anymore. I did quick search on Facebook and look like he parted out a bmw e34 a short while ago also. Pics had other cars half stripped also. Hopefully cops recover your car bro.


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It’s loss or damage caused by theft, loss is pretty broad term in insurance but for this wording it would include the theft, the rest is damage if the vehicle is recovered after let’s say a joy ride.

Not all shops have OAP4/garage insurance so your father may have sadly been just unlucky with getting a shop that does not have insurance

The radiation thing is pretty funny, there’s so many tales and myths in the insurance industry of its origin and times it has come into play. My personal opinion is that it’s an exclusion so if the vehicle for what ever reason is contaminated no one from your insurance company would have to go near it/dispose of it/pay someone crazy enough to fix it which is more of an employee safety thing.

OP keep us updated with the progress of this...

hope that piece of shit get put away for a long time.

Police are "working" on the investigation but they are honestly SO SLOW and I've sent them so much information and pictures proving that this is in fact my car. All they have to do is send a request to kijiji and get information like IP, phone, etc.

It seems like I physically have to point at the guy and drag a cop by the ear to make them do anything...

Working on getting the ball rolling with the bodyshop insurance claim because the car by now is probably in rough shape and a lost cause. However.. of course no one is picking up the phone.

I used to work radio for my local PD and I can tell you that a case like this is extremely low priority (in the grand scheme of crime) so it just sucks that you have all these good leads and they're not acting promptly on any of them. At this point, I would just consider moving on and getting that insurance check so you can get yourself a new ride.

Yeah, cause a stolen car is the absolute top priority for a police service. I'm sure that the murder victim's family agrees with you about your case being much more important.

No, but the cop just sitting on the corner waiting for their next ticket victim certainly could be doing something. Its not their money, and money is low on the priority list, unless its something like a bank robbery, then it suddently is high on the priority list.

Not every police officer is a detective...

I get that, however this is the peel police not some small town police - they have different departments for homicide and auto theft.

They know the details of this case, they know it's in a chop shop getting torn apart into pieces:

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Man that's awful. I'm wishing the best for you buddy, keep your head up. I would contact a lawyer first.

Hope this whole shitty situation works out, good luck man.

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Keep us updated please. This is one of the main reasons why I have LoJack on my car. It’s costy but so damn worth it for the peace of mind.

Also, I’m always browsing Kijiji daily for parts for my car. I’ll keep an eye out.

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damn man.. i feel bad for you

i hope it all works out

and i hope this guy gets castrated

Just read this thread. This sounds REALLY awful. What a headache!


I hope you get the funds to get a new car soon.

Not necessarily true. The car is in their care and you are paying them for service. The car is in their enclosed lot so it should be covered. I believe it Might qualify as a bailment making them responsible.. If the shops insurance gives you a bs answer you can sue the shop and their insurance should defend them/pay the cost of the litigation. Problem becomes you will need a lawyer for that and that will cut into the recovery amount.

OP contact Sean O’Shea at Globaltv as his Wednesday night story was about someone who had his car stolen from a shop and said he would be doing a follow up about who was responsible for the lost. I. Worked with him for more than twenty years and I think he would be interested as this maybe a larger problem and not just a one off story. He maybe able to help add a bit of pressure on the shop or the cops to do something by bringing this to the public. This is the last number I had for the news room *416 446 5461‬. Just ask to talk with Sean and tell him your story. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Contact local news about it and let the shop know, might get the ball rolling faster

This guy got the news involved and it's getting a lot of publicity. The owner of the shop looks so sketchy though. If I'd see a mechanic like that I'd never take my car to them...especially not in Scarborough haha.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gta-mechan...234505641.html