Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   What is considered stage 2? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123428)

MidEastBeast 11-16-2017 11:29 PM

What is considered stage 2?
 
I come from the VW GTI world, and I just want to know what qualifies as stage 2 in the BRZ world. Me and my series.yellow BRZerker have plans... :)

Thanks.

Jo0 11-17-2017 12:02 AM

The way I see it is that

Stage 1 - Stock everything with just a tune. ie....just a tune
Stage 2 - Intake/Header/Downpipe mods and a tune
Stage 3 - FI or redoing your stock FI setup.

To put it into APR/VW terms

Stage 1 - Tune
Stage 2 - Intake/Downpipe and Tune
Stage 3 - K04/GT25/GT27/GT30 (or GTX) and tune

Source: owned a mk4 gti and mk6 gti

Sapphireho 11-17-2017 12:09 AM

Feeling her up. Oh wait, that was 2nd base.

MidEastBeast 11-17-2017 12:12 AM

Can I consider just an UEL header stage 2 for tuning purposes? Also, I haven't tried yet, but it seems installing a decent air intake on this car is more of a nuisance than my old GTI.

bcj 11-17-2017 05:29 AM

What's a "decent air intake"?
One with more colors and swoopy curlicues?

They already come stock with tuned CAI

guybo 11-17-2017 06:14 AM

stage 2 means catless and tuned. A catted aftermarket header is still stage 1. I have heard of people going on a stage 2 tune and deleting the header cat while keeping the FP cat, but I don't know the long term effects or the power loss there is. The cat in the header is the one that has to go. The intake is less important, same with the catback system- there's some gains to be made there, but not a lot.

Since the twins have a header stock and not a log type manifold, there's little gain to be made with an aftermarket header with a HFC. To make the big gains N/A you have to go catless and/or E85

Tcoat 11-17-2017 07:38 AM

I think that people are trying to force a definition where there really isn't one. Not convinced there is a true "stage two" for these cars so all you will get are what people did for their own first major changes. There are certainly some stage twos for some of the turbo kits but those are specific to the kit and not to a level of modding.
Asking "what is stage two" is just another way of saying "what should I change first" and there are hundreds of different opinions on that.

mrg666 11-17-2017 07:52 AM

Stage 1: minimum amount of garbage you can sell
Stage 2: add more garbage that you can claim it is better
Stage 3: add even more garbage that you can claim it is even better

xmadror 11-17-2017 08:29 AM

With a force induction setup stage 2 generally means adding an intercooler.

In all other aspect it doesn't mean much imho.

8RZ 11-17-2017 09:11 AM

Depends on which video game you're playing.

funwheeldrive 11-17-2017 10:59 AM

Stages 1-3 are shown below. Hope this helps.




https://manimeconquest.files.wordpre...s1-3.png?w=640

Tcoat 11-17-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 3006148)
Stages 1-3 are shown below. Hope this helps.




https://manimeconquest.files.wordpre...s1-3.png?w=640

It would appear that stage 3 only applies to halo cars.

NyC Zn6 11-17-2017 11:08 AM

OP since you have a Subaru.

Stage 2 - Intake/Header/Downpipe mods and a vape

MidEastBeast 11-17-2017 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3006095)
I think that people are trying to force a definition where there really isn't one. Not convinced there is a true "stage two" for these cars so all you will get are what people did for their own first major changes. There are certainly some stage twos for some of the turbo kits but those are specific to the kit and not to a level of modding.
Asking "what is stage two" is just another way of saying "what should I change first" and there are hundreds of different opinions on that.

This is the best answer. It was basically the same in the GTI world, except for the turbo.

I pretty much already knew my answer, I just wanted to hear the community opinion. Thanks guys, brb gonna go vape.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:01 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.